Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

[Oh8ch]

My proposed sanctions:

1. No TV ban - but all games will be remade into TV movies and broadcast on Hallmark Channel. David Hasselback will play Matt McGloin.

2. No reduction in Scholarships. However, other Big Ten schools will be allowed to oversign by 2 each. At the end of fall camp unwanted players will be sent to Penn State.

3. No Bowl ban. On the contrary, PSU will be made the permanent home team in the Little Ceasers Pizza Bowl - which will, of course, be televised on the Hallmark Channel.

 

[cincibuck]

Whomever is leaking the stuff from the NCAA and telling media outlets that Penn State may actually prefer the Death Penalty to what the NCAA is going to sanction is spinning this.

He/She is trying to make it look like the penalties are so much harsher than shutting down the program.

SMU didn't have that much impact on national TV -- most schools were on regional TV maybe four times a year max, two games and bowl national max. While I think it should happen, giving Penn State a similar penalty will have a huge revenue impact for TV, bowls, other schools. It might be surprising to know what other Big 10 programs are thinking. They may be much more concerned about that revenue loss than they should be.

 

[jlb1705]

My proposed sanctions:

1. No TV ban - but all games will be remade into TV movies and broadcast on Hallmark Channel. David Hasselback will play Matt McGloin.

2. No reduction in Scholarships. However, other Big Ten schools will be allowed to oversign by 2 each. At the end of fall camp unwanted players will be sent to Penn State.

3. No Bowl ban. On the contrary, PSU will be made the permanent home team in the Little Ceasers Pizza Bowl - which will, of course, be televised on the Hallmark Channel.

4. Reinstate Anthony Morelli and make him quarterback for life.

 

[Taosman]

Tic Tic Tic

 

[CleveBucks]

Ed Ray used to be provost at Ohio State. Cue the BWI conspiracy theorists.

12 minutes later, and there it is. Conspiracy

 

[buxfan4life]

Yes, this is how you break that "football first" mentality.

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Ridiculous, the NCAA is way over the line if they do this. There has to be something PSU can do to fight it right? Our president wouldn't though because he is spineless.

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Yes b/c PSU football is the real victim here.
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If you don't think Penn State football is a victim here you are blind.

 

[woofermazing]

http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=156455081&mid=156455081&sid=890&style=2

Pedophile enablers are on the same level as Jesus now.

 

[Oh8ch]

If you don't think Penn State football is a victim here you are blind.

Penn State football clearly is a victim.

He didn't say innocent victim.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

Prediction time...I am guessing a 5 year bowl ban, a loss of 10-20 scholarships a year for at least a 5 year period, giving back some bowl money and possibly vacating all bowl wins since 1998....

What I would consider to be a de facto death penalty:

LOIC
5 year probation
4 year bowl ban
15 scholarships a year for four years
3 year television ban
on-site ncaa representatives to oversee compliance and institutional control issues.

Still not harsh enough, IMO.

Let's do the math:

Free tattoos + (1 HC x 1-year cover-up) - self-reporting = 1-year bowl ban - 9 scholarships

Child rape + ((1 HC + 1 AD + 1 VP + 1 Pres) x 14-year cover-up) + LOIC + Clery Act = 5-year bowl ban - 50 scholarships

The numbers just don't add up. What Penn State did was so much more egregious than what Ohio State did, plus they had the audacity to sell their program to recruits based on "Success With Honor" and "No NCAA Violations Ever". That program needs a a penalty that is not only severe enough to punish them for past wrongs, but is also debilitating enough to force the twisted culture of Penn State to change. There simply needs to be at least some scorching of the earth in State College.

Valles Felix delenda est.

The NCAA has to do something more than a bowl ban and scholarship reductions, unless those are really drastic. Not letting PSU play for at least a year seems appropriate (in addition to other severe penalties) in order to make a statement that people will remember--there was no 2012 PSU team for a reason.

This is the crux of the argument in favor of the death penalty.

 

[4skers89]

I see a lot of suggestions on BWI to donate profits to charities as their sanctions and passing it off as some kind of altruistic gesture. In reality it's just a disingenuous attempt to avoid harsher penalties. When the NCAA announces the sanctions tomorrow and don't include anything requiring donations to charities, will they still offer to donate profits to charities? OOPS

 

[BuckTwenty]

There has to be a television ban. Put a multi-year tv ban in place, and ped aggy will be competing with the Patriot League for recruits.

What I would consider to be a de facto death penalty:

LOIC
5 year probation
4 year bowl ban
15 scholarships a year for four years
3 year television ban
on-site ncaa representatives to oversee compliance and institutional control issues.

I think this is pretty darn realistic, though I'd change the TV ban to a 3-year TV blackout in PA for PSU games. If it was a national TV ban, I think the national networks would have a problem with the lost revenue and fans from other teams would be angry they wouldn't be able to see their beloved team play that week.

 

[Oh8ch]

Big Ten could pile on:

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/...as-mason-big-ten-might-punish-penn-state-too/

 

[buxfan4life]

I see a lot of them saying the Syracuse thing was exactly the same. Did I miss where Fine was convicted of 40+ counts of sexual abuse of a minor, and where he used the Syracuse facilities in order to entice his victims to spend alone time with him? Where the administration and Boeheim was shown to be covering up for Bernie to be "humane" towards him? Did I miss something here?

 

[buxfan4life]

Big Ten could pile on:

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/...as-mason-big-ten-might-punish-penn-state-too/

The pedsters should read this, but then again the B1G always had it out for them anyway.

?We are dealing with an unprecedented situation,? Mason said during last week?s interview. ?It clearly is a sports-related incident, but it?s also indicative of systemic institutional failures ? a moral failure as well a legal failure ? and we as a conference want to do everything we can to both send a very strong message to our conference member, and at the same time also help Penn State find ways to really get back to emphasizing the great educational institution that it is.?

 

[Mike80]

I see a lot of them saying the Syracuse thing was exactly the same. Did I miss where Fine was convicted of 40+ counts of sexual abuse of a minor, and where he used the Syracuse facilities in order to entice his victims to spend alone time with him? Where the administration and Boeheim was shown to be covering up for Bernie to be "humane" towards him? Did I miss something here?

And Sanpedusky didn't have any accusers backtrack entirely and admit to fabricating everything.

So other than loser Ped State cultists posting bullshit on message boards aside, not one of the victims have backtracked on anything.