malibuspeedrace;2181694; said:
Not to sure if he understands what all this commotion is about still.
I know it is a good time to mock the fans...and given how Audibles treated OSU and our fans during our NCAA troubles I can fully understand. But I have to say that beyond the disconnected and borderline crazy vocal minority: they are handling this as well as can be expected given the circumstances. We had our nutbars too and their situation is FAR, FAR worse..
That said, there are two issues even some of the more grounded PSU fans don't seem to be connecting in a logic way. One is the purpose or intent of any NCAA punishment. I'm not talking about all PSU fans...but perhaps more than the number that are worried about defending the statue. Some seem to think the NCAA wants to punish PSU for what Jerry did or to give justice to the children he molested.
JewniorGong wrote: I wonder how many scholarships and years of not being allowed to play in a (most likely) meaningless football game after a pre-determined date (end of the "regular season") the NCAA considers to be the price of a bunch of kids' innocence.
How sanctimoniously arbitrary and missing the point
I don't think some of them understand what the NCAA is talking about. Any punishment they issue won't be reflective of what they view as the "price of a bunch of kid's innocence". The NCAA is reviewing the policy and procedure of how and who made decisions at PSU. It has ZERO to do with Sandusky and the children directly, but rather the mechanics of how it all stayed hidden for so long.
They (the NCAA) are labeling PSU's institutional culture as 'off the tracks' and a colossal failure on a level they have never seen before and hope to never see again (paraphrasing Emmert). When he says that he is speaking to the way the information was not acted on by the PSU administration, not what Jerry did.
The intent of a bowl ban, lost scholarships, or even the death penalty for that matter, should the NCAA decide to sanction PSU, would not be to try and make it right for the children. Rather it would be two fold: to punish PSU for the failure of the institution to address/handle the reports and information properly and to serve as a warning beacon to other universities to make sure this drama is never repeated.
Something is likely coming from the NCAA...but I personally very much doubt it will be the death penalty. Whatever it is: it won't be an effort to make it OK for the children or indicate what they view the penance to be for Jerry's felonious actions...it will be intended to ensure this won't happen again and to lower football's importance in the university culture.
Clearly at least SOME of the administrators were aware of the initial investigation and so it should have gone directly to the police in 2001. We can argue details all day but none of it changes the big picture: the university as a whole had a failure in judgement and decision making that led to a moral train wreck. What Joe knew, how much detail was communicated to Spanier... what were those emails really about...what did Mike REALLY see...should the statue stay or go...warring over these items is just moving the chairs around on the deck of the Titanic. In the end it doesn't make any difference if everyone knew everything..or only part of it... the school already hit the iceberg and the football program is taking on NCAA water.
Emmert already made up his mind with regard to Freeh report and whether football was involved. He clearly thinks the bad decisions were made at least partially out of deference to the football program...and that is what any punishment will be about.
I'll comment on the other logic break in a subsequent post.
