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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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NJ-Buckeye;2177276; said:
Guess that PSU billion dollar endowment is gonna take a SERIOUS hit...
Had PSU not come out so holier than thou and said it so loudly I'd be softer.. but when one of my best friends (PSU) called us 'disgusting cheaters' months back... now I'm [censored]ed
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The problem is that how do you touch anything that's not been donated into a general fund? If someone has donated money to endow a history scholarship, Ped Aggy can't use that money (or the investment returns off of it) for anything else, including paying off lawsuits. Most donations come with strings attached.

Assuming that they have no sovereign immunity, I'm not sure where they're going to find half a billion dollars lying around.
 
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Piney;2177272; said:
That is the part that fascinates me, the scope is so huge. There are so many levels to this it is crazy. While the sports guys talk about the NCAA bringing the death penalty, that is just so small compared to what the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT might do to them.

Who cares if you have a football program anymore when your university may no longer exist??? Or be beaten down to a community college.
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While the Clery Act represents a larger hammer than the NCAA death penalty, in the end I don't think it will be wielded to its fullest extent. It would be a huge step to deny the institution's ability to accept federal financial aid, and would carry significant political and economic ramifications for generations to come. Too big to fail, and so on...

Instead, I think the potential for those kind of penalties will serve to put NCAA penalties in their proper perspective. People think of the penalty SMU received was severe. Next to the possible consequences of violating the Clery Act, they were not that severe at all. SMU still exists. SMU is still able to carry out its core mission. Penn State lost sight of its core mission. In dealing with the Sandusky situation, the decision-makers at Penn State had football as their core mission rather than education. Strict NCAA penalties would represent a forced correction of those values, just like what has taken place at SMU.

Sometimes the biggest hammer isn't the most appropriate one to use. I don't know if there is any way or any justification for this kind of penalty from the NCAA, but if it can be wielded, I think it is the most appropriate hammer to swing in this case.
 
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BuckeyeMac;2177284; said:
Big Ten:

"Hey Ped State, don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out"
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No but in all seriousness, how/why as a big ten conference, would you want a school like Ped State affiliated with them?

As other schools within the big 10, why would you want to be affiliated with that? I for one don't want to be. As if the Big 10 needs any more bad PR.

Time to cut the cord and set that downward spiraling shit hole on its own and not drag anyone or anything else down with it
 
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BuckeyeMac;2177316; said:
No but in all seriousness, how/why as a big ten conference, would you want a school like Ped State affiliated with them?

As other schools within the big 10, why would you want to be affiliated with that? I for one don't want to be. As if the Big 10 needs any more bad PR.

Time to cut the cord and set that downward spiraling shit hole on its own and not drag anyone or anything else down with it
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I guess it depends on the bi-laws and contracts? Though my guess is, there are some pretty big questions PSU might have problems answering...

1. Are you a university? (dicey; see Act, Clery)
2. Do you have an athletic department? (also dicey; see Penalty, Death)
3. Do you have a football team (getting bad; see above)
 
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BusNative;2177325; said:
I guess it depends on the bi-laws and contracts? Though my guess is, there are some pretty big questions PSU might have problems answering...

1. Are you a university? (dicey; see Act, Clery)
2. Do you have an athletic department? (also dicey; see Penalty, Death)
3. Do you have a football team (getting bad; see above)
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To hell with answering questions. I'm sure there's bi-laws or whatever within their contract at which the Big Ten sees reasonable doubt to terminate said contract. Say covering up raping of boys, within the entire university?
 
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