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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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ORD_Buckeye;2177336; said:
Franco?

Franco, are you out there?
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jlb1705;2177304; said:
While the Clery Act represents a larger hammer than the NCAA death penalty, in the end I don't think it will be wielded to its fullest extent. It would be a huge step to deny the institution's ability to accept federal financial aid, and would carry significant political and economic ramifications for generations to come. Too big to fail, and so on...

Instead, I think the potential for those kind of penalties will serve to put NCAA penalties in their proper perspective. People think of the penalty SMU received was severe. Next to the possible consequences of violating the Clery Act, they were not that severe at all. SMU still exists. SMU is still able to carry out its core mission. Penn State lost sight of its core mission. In dealing with the Sandusky situation, the decision-makers at Penn State had football as their core mission rather than education. Strict NCAA penalties would represent a forced correction of those values, just like what has taken place at SMU.

Sometimes the biggest hammer isn't the most appropriate one to use. I don't know if there is any way or any justification for this kind of penalty from the NCAA, but if it can be wielded, I think it is the most appropriate hammer to swing in this case.
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And really that is what is wrong with today's society. Too big to fail also means the ability to do whatever the heck they want.

While Penn State SHOULD lose its accredidation and lose its football program, it can't because so many innocent people (current players, staff, students, faculty) would get affected. Let alone the political suicide for anyone involved (another thing wrong with today, nothing can get fixed because it will always piss off people so you can't do anything)

What the NCAA should do is wait. While a suspension of their football program might be the most appropriate penalty, the NCAA might not be the one that acts on it. Could the DOJ/DOE act WITH the NCAA to find some type of appropriate punishment. Heck, that might be the best answer, but you know that will never happen because it makes too much sense.

Besides that commom sense approach, the NCAA/Big 10 would almost have to wait to see what the law does to Penn State. Because if the feds come down on with a significant penalty, the NCAA might not have to do anything.
 
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Leaders:
Illinois, Indiana, Ohio State, Purdue, Wisconsin


Legends:
Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern


Liars:
Penn State

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You simply have to kick them out of the conference now right?
Plenty of time to add Rutgers!
 
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jlb1705;2177304; said:
While the Clery Act represents a larger hammer than the NCAA death penalty, in the end I don't think it will be wielded to its fullest extent. It would be a huge step to deny the institution's ability to accept federal financial aid, and would carry significant political and economic ramifications for generations to come. Too big to fail, and so on...

Instead, I think the potential for those kind of penalties will serve to put NCAA penalties in their proper perspective. People think of the penalty SMU received was severe. Next to the possible consequences of violating the Clery Act, they were not that severe at all. SMU still exists. SMU is still able to carry out its core mission. Penn State lost sight of its core mission. In dealing with the Sandusky situation, the decision-makers at Penn State had football as their core mission rather than education. Strict NCAA penalties would represent a forced correction of those values, just like what has taken place at SMU.

Sometimes the biggest hammer isn't the most appropriate one to use. I don't know if there is any way or any justification for this kind of penalty from the NCAA, but if it can be wielded, I think it is the most appropriate hammer to swing in this case.
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I think they need to be hit by Clery and the NCAA. Let Clery punish them so bad that they are on life support and then have the NCAA give them the SMU treatment. Maybe in a generation they will be able to clean up the school enough to join the MAC. The B1G needs to start looking for a new 12th school although I liked everything better when they only had 11.
 
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I've been concerned that we haven't heard more about investigation of Second Mile. Seems like there was a focus on them in November, but the past few months the news about them has been mainly how they are hurting for donations. How is that organization not yet dismantled and the kids moved into more reputable programs? Hopefully there will be some movement now that the other parts of the scandal are falling into place.
 
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Deety;2177364; said:
I've been concerned that we haven't heard more about investigation of Second Mile. Seems like there was a focus on them in November, but the past few months the news about them has been mainly how they are hurting for donations. How is that organization not yet dismantled and the kids moved into more reputable programs? Hopefully there will be some movement now that the other parts of the scandal are falling into place.
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May 25th--the Second Mile posted on its home page that it was transferring its assets and programs to an existing charity based in Houston.

http://www.thesecondmile.org/welcome.php
 
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Deety;2177364; said:
I've been concerned that we haven't heard more about investigation of Second Mile. Seems like there was a focus on them in November, but the past few months the news about them has been mainly how they are hurting for donations. How is that organization not yet dismantled and the kids moved into more reputable programs? Hopefully there will be some movement now that the other parts of the scandal are falling into place.
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They are heading that way...

http://articles.philly.com/2012-05-26/news/31851441_1_jerry-sandusky-arrow-plans-transfer

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/25/nation/la-na-nn-jerry-sandusky-20120525
 
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