Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

[AKAK]

So, it has not been shown that the University, from the president down to the lowly little head coach (sarcasm for those whose switch is off today), knew of the fact that Jer the Pedo Bear was engaging in these acts on campus in the football facilities and did nothing to stop it?

Well... see that's where your missing the key nuances, right? See, it was the University... not the football program's problem.

Err... something. I mean, you know, Schultz didn't have a secret fuckign file on Sandusky or anything, and well, we already know that Spanier and the rest of them lied about it...

But, no, not the football program... never.

So, to recap... yeah, that's the straw to be grasped at here. Don't blame the football program for the shortcomings of those... well... in charge of the football program... and the University as a whole... then they covered it up.

But, you know, it's not so bad, it's not the football program's fault.

Hmm... you know... there are 85 to 100 guys at Penn State at any given time to play football. Better worry about them... you know... but not the THOUSANDS of other students, faculty, staff and alumni who are impacted severely by this, and as a result of that... you know... the football program, which last I checked is kind of dependant on the rest of the University to exist.

 

[Woody1968]

However the justice is, perhaps, best served by state and federal funds being pulled... Not necessarily the NCAA dishing out any punishment. Frankly, if the NCAA wants to have a shot at the dead body after the state and feds are done, I'm ok with that.

Normally I would be against the NCAA doing anything. The lack of human decency spawned by that program, however, needs to be dealt with.

 

[AKAK]

Normally I would be against the NCAA doing anything. The lack of human decency spawned by that program, however, needs to be dealt with.

By the authorities and the PA legislature. I don't think the NCAA legislates about diddling little kids.

(Though, I had run through my mind the idea that they were potential recruits.... oh, slippery slopes)

 

[jlb1705]

Well... see that's where your missing the key nuances, right? See, it was the University... not the football program's problem.

Err... something. I mean, you know, Schultz didn't have a secret fuckign file on Sandusky or anything, and well, we already know that Spanier and the rest of them lied about it...

But, no, not the football program... never.

So, to recap... yeah, that's the straw to be grasped at here. Don't blame the football program for the shortcomings of those... well... in charge of the football program... and the University as a whole... then they covered it up.

But, you know, it's not so bad, it's not the football program's fault.

Hmm... you know... there are 85 to 100 guys at Penn State at any given time to play football. Better worry about them... you know... but not the THOUSANDS of other students, faculty, staff and alumni who are impacted severely by this, and as a result of that... you know... the football program, which last I checked is kind of dependant on the rest of the University to exist.

[cultist] You can't blame the university either. It's down to individuals. It's just a coincidence that the individuals happened to be a collection of all the decision makers of consequence, working in concert for a common purpose. That's clearly not the same as an organizational problem. [/cultist]

 

[AKAK]

[cultist] You can't blame the university either. It's down to individuals. It's just a coincidence that the individuals happened to be a collection of all the decision makers of consequence, working in concert for a common purpose. That's clearly not the same as an organizational problem. [/cultist]

So... lemme get this straight... the cultists... think its about individuals.

I like it.

(This is also the collection of dumbasses that completely over use the word "Fanbase")

 

[Delaware Buck]

Read some of the responses to the first post... disgusting. They are still trying to call into question whether the shower incident was a crime.

http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=155962696&mid=155962696&sid=890&style=2

 

[jlb1705]

Read some of the responses to the first post... disgusting. They are still trying to call into question whether the shower incident was a crime.

http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=155962696&mid=155962696&sid=890&style=2

I just cannot understand how he heard "rhythmic" slapping in "two or three seconds" (as he testified). JS would have to screw like a hummingbird. In addition, he heard it from between the two sets of doors while the shower was on. Not only would JS have to screw like a hummingbird, he'd have to screw like "The Hulk". This all stopped when MM entered the second or the two doors leading into the locker room.

Good lord...

 

[Muck]

Most people, even in the news media, are also unaware that there was only one other allegation of actual rape (interestingly the mother of that victim does not blame Penn State or Paterno at all) in the grand jury report,

Meh. Penn State is OK in my book. There was ONLY one other rape. (I guess molesting kids is ok as long as you ONLY rape one of them? CRIPES!!!)

I think it is worth looking into that claim.

Victim 1
Count 1: Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
Verdict: Guilty.
Count 2: Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
Verdict: Guilty.

Victim 2
Count 7: Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
Verdict: Not guilty.

Victim 4
Count 16: Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
Verdict: Charge was dismissed
Count 17: Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
Verdict: Guilty.
Count 18: Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
Verdict: Charge was dismissed

Victim 8
Count 36: Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
Verdict: Guilty.
Count 37: Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
Verdict: Guilty.

Victim 9
Count 41: Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
Verdict: Guilty.
Count 42: Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
Verdict: Guilty.

Victim 10
Count 47: Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
Verdict: Guilty.
Count 48: Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
Verdict: Guilty.

One of the dropped counts in regards to Victim 4 was dismissed as it was determined to be a duplicate Count 17.

That means Sandusky was found guilty in NINE of the counts of Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse and not guilty in the one rape that McQuery witnessed (primarily because the victim isn't available to say "yes he was sodomizing me").

Somebody want to clarify which of those NINE cases of "Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse" is the only other allegation of actual rape?

 

[Woody1968]

By the authorities and the PA legislature. I don't think the NCAA legislates about diddling little kids.

(Though, I had run through my mind the idea that they were potential recruits.... oh, slippery slopes)

I believe the NCAA should look long and hard at whether the cover-up of said activity was to protect the football program. The cover-up also calls into question whether or not PSU has been entirely forthcoming with the NCAA in the past.

 

[buxfan4life]

Somebody want to clarify which of those NINE cases of "Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse" is the only other allegation of actual rape?

We can't, because none of us went to Ped State.

 

[colobuck79]

I think it is worth looking into that claim.


Somebody want to clarify which of those NINE cases of "Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse" is the only other allegation of actual rape?

And I think we can all agree that there couldn't possibly be any more victims out there that weren't involved in the case ......

 

[MaliBuckeye]

Interesting. Wonder if the PSU alumni office is excited about this:

Editor's note: Roxanne Jones is a founding editor of ESPN The Magazine and a former vice president at ESPN. She is a national lecturer on sports, entertainment and women's topics and a recipient of the 2010 Woman of the Year award from Women in Sports and Events. She is the author of "Say It Loud: An Illustrated History of the Black Athlete" (Random House) and is CEO of Push Media Strategies and is working on her second book.

(CNN) -- My prized Penn State sweatshirt sits stuffed in the back of my closet.

The oversized "We Are Penn State" license plate that once perched above the door of my ESPN office, has been put away, along with photos of me as a proud, smiling cheerleader for the Nittany Lions.

And weeks ago when my son received his very first college acceptance letter from my alma mater, Penn State -- a moment I thought would be one of the pinnacles in my life -- we both tossed the letter aside and prayed that he'd get accepted into a "better school." (Our prayers were answered.)

 

[buxfan4life]

And I think we can all agree that there couldn't possibly be any more victims out there that weren't involved in the case ......

[ped stater]They aren't victims, they are the predators going after poor Jerry for monetary gains. IF IT DOESN'T FIT YOU MUST AQUIT!!! Joe Pa would be mad at the outcome, rest his holier than thou soul[/ped stater]






I feel really dirty now. ugh.

 

[AKAK]

I believe the NCAA should look long and hard at whether the cover-up of said activity was to protect the football program. The cover-up also calls into question whether or not PSU has been entirely forthcoming with the NCAA in the past.

Yes, but only if the cover-up (in these instances) is related to illegal recruiting or impermissible benefits, or the usual sorts of things the NCAA legislates.

I'm not sure this constitutes probable cause (such as it is in NCAA-land)

Now, should the usual investigative journalism hack descend on Happy Valley like a swarm of locusts to overturn every rock? Eh, sure why not, if only to watch BWI completely melt down.

While Jerry's dick in an ass is impermissible, not sure its a benefit to anyone.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Well, you see, if your kid is molesting people in your bathroom shower while living at your house then it is clearly your responsibility to stop it.

On the other hand, if your kid is grown up and no longer living in your home and they only molest people in your bathroom shower during visits on the holidays, clearly that is not the least bit your concern.

Report the molestation to the homeowner's association and you've done everything that can be reasonably expected of you- I am sure everyone would agree.

In fact, you've done so much in response to the situation that no one can even expect you to follow up on that initial report when the molestation continues to occur on holidays in your house for the next decade.

Not if you're still paying a mortgage, in which case you report the molestation to the bank...