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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

BuckeyeNation27;2104719; said:
Eh......I used to want them out, too. But if they go to the ACC or, god forbid, Big East...who would be there to keep them down where they belong? I'm not relying on Florida State for anything.

Pitt or Rutgers or Cincy would get them at least every other year.

In the ACC they would lose to Virginia, Va Tech or Maryland in the same way. Not to mention BC and maybe one of the Carolina schools would get them too.

Ped State only wins when the Big Ten is and Ohio State isn't dominant and even then they lose games that they probably shouldn't. It wouldn't change in the ACC or the Big East.
 
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As a fan base they are inbred imbeciles. They are detached from all normal reasoning with the outside world. Before they joined the BIG they grew fat heads on their own hubris.
The BIG was their reality check.
Now they are exposed as frauds and their "Greatest Coach In College Football History" was caught pooping his pants on tv and turning his head to pedophilia in the empire he built.
Are we surprised that now they want to rename the stadium after him?
We should force them to so the world will never forget those who enabled and protected a pedophile for years.
 
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I wouldn't waste my time worrying about a hand full of Penn State fans calling for a jump to the ACC. Penn State is first and foremost a football school. The ACC was,is,will be, a basketball first conference. A move to the ACC would ultimately mean a Wednesday night game (the NFL just announced a full schedule of Thursday night games) at Duke or Wake in front of 12K fans, most of whom would be students. i.e. It would mean a huge drop in revenue from the BTN to the ACC football TV contract.

More importantly, Penn State was a middle-of-the-pack state school academically until they entered the Big 10. The school's academic/research reputation and revenue grew rapidly since the affiliation.

IF the resources of the NC Research Triangle are shared by all schools, and not just the NC schools, then Penn State's faculty might be OK with the move. If not, the loss of the Big 10's academic and research consortium would be a huge loss for the school.

But here's the football reality (from multiple sources) of just what a jump to the ACC from the Big 10 would mean:


Stadium College Conference Capacity Opened
Alumni Stadium Boston College ACC 44,500 1957
BB&T Field Wake Forest ACC 31,500 1968
Bobby Dodd Stadium Georgia Tech ACC 55,000 1930
Byrd Stadium Maryland ACC 54,000 1950
Carter Finley Stadium NC State ACC 57,583 1966
Doak Campbell Stadium Florida State ACC 84,300 1950
Sun Life Stadium Miami ACC 76,500 1987
Kenan Stadium North Carolina ACC 60,000 1927
Lane Stadium Virginia Tech ACC 66,233 1965
Memorial Stadium Clemson ACC 81,500 1942
Scott Stadium Virginia ACC 61,500 1931
Wallace Wade Stadium Duke ACC 33,941 1929

Beaver Stadium Penn State Big Ten 107,282 1960
Camp Randall Stadium Wisconsin Big Ten 80,321 1917
Kinnick Stadium Iowa Big Ten 70,585 1929
Memorial Stadium Illinois Big Ten 69,249 1923
Memorial Stadium Indiana Big Ten 52,692 1960
Memorial Stadium Nebraska Big Ten 81,067 1923
Michigan Stadium Michigan Big Ten 109,901 1927
Ohio Stadium Ohio State Big Ten 102,329 1922
Ross Ade Stadium Purdue Big Ten 62,500 1924
Ryan Field Northwestern Big Ten 49,256 1926
Spartan Stadium Michigan State Big Ten 75,005 1923
TCF Bank Stadium Minnesota Big Ten 50,805 2009

Football stadiums in the Atlantic Coast Conference generally are less full than they were last year.
The 12 ACC teams have been filled to only 86.9 percent capacity this season. According to league data, its stadiums were roughly 90 percent full during the 2010 regular season. Both figures are well below the high of 94.5 percent set in 2004, the year Miami and Virginia Tech joined the league.
Wake Forest and Virginia Tech are the only ACC teams whose stadiums have been 100 percent filled ? or better.
Only three schools have shown significant improvement in attendance: Wake Forest, Maryland and Florida State. At five ACC schools ? Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami and North Carolina ? the stands are markedly emptier than they were last year.


B1G Rk. Nat'l Rk. Team Avg. Attend. % Capacity Total Attend. Total gms
1 1 Michigan 112,179 102.07 897,431 8
2 2 Ohio State 105,231 102.84 736,618 7
3 4 Penn State 101,427 95.17 709,991 7
4 12 Nebraska 85,267 105.15 596,871 7
5 15 Wisconsin 79,813 99.37 558,692 7
6 20 Michigan State 74,078 98.76 518,545 7
7 21 Iowa 70,585 100 494,095 7
8 42 Illinois 49,548 81.67 396,380 8
9 49 Minnesota 47,714 93.92 333,996 7
10 51 Purdue 42,225 72.36 316,574 7
11 58 Indiana 41,380 78.18 248,282 6
12 70 Northwestern 33,442 70.96 200,649 6
 
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cincibuck;2104809; said:
B1G Rk. Nat'l Rk. Team Avg. Attend. % Capacity Total Attend. Total gms
1 1 Michigan 112,179 102.07 897,431 8
2 2 Ohio State 105,231 102.84 736,618 7
3 4 Penn State 101,427 95.17 709,991 7
4 12 Nebraska 85,267 105.15 596,871 7
5 15 Wisconsin 79,813 99.37 558,692 7
6 20 Michigan State 74,078 98.76 518,545 7
7 21 Iowa 70,585 100 494,095 7
8 42 Illinois 49,548 81.67 396,380 8
9 49 Minnesota 47,714 93.92 333,996 7
10 51 Purdue 42,225 72.36 316,574 7
11 58 Indiana 41,380 78.18 248,282 6
12 70 Northwestern 33,442 70.96 200,649 6

Nice work Purdue, Indiana, and Northwestern. Illinois at least had 80+% attendance.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;2104896; said:
Who the hell is worrying about Ped State LEAVING? Hell I WANT them to go.

[censored] Ped State.

NFBuck;2104907; said:
Seriously, let their goofy asses go somewhere else. Then another conference can deal with the cult tossing [censored]bombs at their fans.

Indeed. PSU8488 needs to start a petition campaign to leave the B1G.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;2104896; said:
Who the hell is worrying about Ped State LEAVING? Hell I WANT them to go.

Fuck Ped State.

I don't. First they are the Big 10's opening to the East Coast market and short of landing Notre Dame, there is no other program that brings that aspect to the mix. Second, they expand the BTN market area. Having been stationed in DC prior to PSU entering the Big 10 and after, I can tell you that it opened the Maryland, DC and Northern Virginia market to Big 10 football, something that was not there prior to that. That's lots of kids watching Ohio State and other Big 10 teams play and that helps in recruiting. Third, every Big 10 team that plays in Happy Valley draws a full house of 100K fans. their take home paycheck is significantly bigger when compared to what they take home from Northwestern, or what they would take home from a game with Rutgers, Maryland, WVU, Syracuse, Missouri, Kansas, or Iowa state. Four, they are now comparable to OSU in academic quality.

All of that adds up to revenue, revenue not easily replaced by the schools that would fit into the Big 10 footprint - football first, big stadiums, strong fan bases that travel well -- hell even Indiana's fan base gets up and goes to out of town games and the rare bowl appearance --

From my point of view, the PSU in or out issue cuts both ways. Their fans may be in need of a cranialrectalectomy right now, but they've had a great deal handed to them to deal with. Anger, frustration, denial -- bound to be a part of their recovery process.
 
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cincibuck;2104918; said:
I don't. First they are the Big 10's opening to the East Coast market and short of landing Notre Dame, there is no other program that brings that aspect to the mix. Second, they expand the BTN market area. Having been stationed in DC prior to PSU entering the Big 10 and after, I can tell you that it opened the Maryland, DC and Northern Virginia market to Big 10 football, something that was not there prior to that. That's lots of kids watching Ohio State and other Big 10 teams play and that helps in recruiting. Third, every Big 10 team that plays in Happy Valley draws a full house of 100K fans. their take home paycheck is significantly bigger when compared to what they take home from Northwestern, or what they would take home from a game with Rutgers, Maryland, WVU, Syracuse, Missouri, Kansas, or Iowa state. Four, they are now comparable to OSU in academic quality.

All of that adds up to revenue, revenue not easily replaced by the schools that would fit into the Big 10 footprint - football first, big stadiums, strong fan bases that travel well -- hell even Indiana's fan base gets up and goes to out of town games and the rare bowl appearance --

From my point of view, the PSU in or out issue cuts both ways. Their fans may be in need of a cranialrectalectomy right now, but they've had a great deal handed to them to deal with. Anger, frustration, denial -- bound to be a part of their recovery process.

You shouldn't. At all. You are really over-thinking this and you are completely ignoring what 98% of that fanbase actually IS....

Inbred fucksticks who LOVED A PEDOPHILE ENABLER.

Fuck them all. Let them go - the Big Ten will survive just fine without them. Hell maybe Delaney will step up and actually pull in a university that matters to bring the B1G back to 12.

Either way, Fuck Ped State.
 
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