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Serious question, how many people get injured doing this program?

I know a ton of people who've pulled muscles in their shoulders and arms that caused them to not be able to continue the program.

It seems as if there is no build up of aerobic and physical conditioning, it just throws you into the program full go.
 
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Thump;1869390; said:
Serious question, how many people get injured doing this program?

I know a ton of people who've pulled muscles in their shoulders and arms that caused them to not be able to continue the program.

It seems as if there is no build up of aerobic and physical conditioning, it just throws you into the program full go.

That's very true. There's no build-up other than the preliminary fitness test that's supposed to tell you whether or not you're in good enough shape to start. The program is really made for people who are already in good shape and want to get ripped - not so much for fat people (like myself, quite honestly) who want to drop some weight.

It is very easy to get injured if you're not ready and if you're too stubborn to modify tougher workouts. That's what I've done and I've been able to hang in there - but there's still a some stuff I can't do at all or can't do near the level that they do in the videos. I haven't injured myself so far - I've had some occasional soreness in my elbows, shoulders or knees that have told me that I need to stop or take an early/extra recovery day or something like that, but I've been ready to go again the next day. As somebody else mentioned earlier in the thread, one of the keys is to know the difference between being uncomfortable and being sore/hurt.
 
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I'm into week 12 on the lean program, I went from 223 to 195. I'm not following their diet, but I do have a nutrition regimen of my own. I eat 1 gram of protein for every lb of my ideal weight. Then I just try to limit my intake of complex carbs and refined sugars. I have radically changed how I eat (120 oz. of water, leafy greens and fruits, no more soda or candy).

Yoga, ghads f' that. That's where I am today... and though I've gotten better at most of it, I still really struggle a lot. After I'm done with this, I'm going to try different Yoga routines. I hear a lot of Yoga experts don't like Tony's methods, so I'm going to try 20 minutes in the morning every day in addition to round 2. I'm even thinking about taking a Yoga class or two... because I can definitely notice the difference in my flexibility and strength. In terms of building lean muscle, it really seems like Yoga helps me as much as any pump.
 
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The Yoga portion is really hard. I don't know if it's the mix of flexibility and balance, my bad knees or what but I sweat like crazy during it. I feel like a million bucks after I am done though.

Regarding the injuries. I have bad knees. I do what I can to modify during but have found out that I can do more than I thought before the program and that I am becoming more flexible in my knees. Building of the muscles around bad joints helps them in their structure. Sounds obvious but he even says in some of the vids, to not overdue something but to do something and not take exercises off just because you know a joint is bad (He describes that he had shattered a knee when he was younger). Granted if the pain can't be remedied with a normal painkiller(Tylenol/Advil...) I would stop until you can take it again without chance of dramatic injury.

For example, my right knee is bad due to a car accident where I broke my thigh and had to have a rod inserted thru my knee. So I have a tendency to overcompensate for it and put tons of pressure on my left leg. Well doing that in this did two things. 1. My left knee has had some small pains which with a couple of tylenol goes away (I believed it was inflamed due to the overwork of how I was trying to do the exercises and I now take it preemptively on any leg exercise days or cardio days) 2. I found out how weak my right leg is and now have the knowledge to build it up to help both legs out.

If I don't think I can do any more I rest then get back in when I feel I can. No shame in my living room and no competition to beat someone else out and get hurt trying. I am seeing great results in less than 2 weeks and I am ready to hit the transition into the second phase. I hear that you see greater results in that phase.

Like he says. Do your best and forget the rest. Don't overdo it but try your hardest.
 
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NateG;1869488; said:
The Yoga portion is really hard. I don't know if it's the mix of flexibility and balance, my bad knees or what but I sweat like crazy during it. I feel like a million bucks after I am done though.

It's primarily a different type of strain (not really good nor bad) for the most part.
 
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There are parts of the P90X program that I love and parts that I hate. For instance, I like the Yoga. It is definitely beneficial to my golf game and lots of different areas of life in general, but it is just too damn long. I supplement another Yoga program that Horton does in his one-on-one series. It is only 50 minutes or so. I also like to do a little more cardio/plyo type stuff so I supplement workouts from the Insanity program. Seems a lot more beneficial to me with regard to my mountain biking.

Like any workout program, injury is a possibility and like others have said the program isn't for people really out of shape. I wouldn't go so far as to say it is only for people who are already are "in shape." However, if you can't come close to doing the fit test, don't start the program. (the definition of the phrase "in shape" varies greatly from person to person) A warm up and stretch is included in every workout. I would be willing to bet a substantial amount of money that most people who go to the gym regularly and workout don't warm up and stretch nearly as much as you do in this program prior to working out. I think that definitely reduces the likelihood of injury.
 
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jlb1705;1869423; said:
That's very true. There's no build-up other than the preliminary fitness test that's supposed to tell you whether or not you're in good enough shape to start. The program is really made for people who are already in good shape and want to get ripped - not so much for fat people (like myself, quite honestly) who want to drop some weight.
P90x is definitely for fat people, same with Insanity and every other fitness program you'll see advertised on TV ever. I did it when I was already in shape and didn't get nearly as much out of it as a fat person would.

As far as the injuries go, I'd bet 95% of the injuries people get from this are caused by being impatient/overestimating their ability and either increasing volume too quickly or using too much weight. Most of the people you know who pulled muscles were probably just being dumbasses.
 
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I wasn't fat by any means, but I think the old cliche holds to form here. Get what you put in. I'm on a good supplement stack with a proper diet and a good routine, and I'm building lean muscle very quickly. For anyone reasonably fit, gains only come with pushing the envelope.

@injury--I have had a lingering MCL problem in my left knee. It's kind of what initially caused me to start some sort of weight loss program, the extra lbs were putting added strain on it whenever I did something physical. Now that I've lost weight and started to treat my body properly it feels a world better. Like Tony says, there are good days and bad for parts of the body that are injured--but I find that at my age, working hard at this, I'm having many more good than bad.
 
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souL;1869976; said:
I wasn't fat by any means, but I think the old cliche holds to form here. Get what you put in. I'm on a good supplement stack with a proper diet and a good routine, and I'm building lean muscle very quickly. For anyone reasonably fit, gains only come with pushing the envelope.

@injury--I have had a lingering MCL problem in my left knee. It's kind of what initially caused me to start some sort of weight loss program, the extra lbs were putting added strain on it whenever I did something physical. Now that I've lost weight and started to treat my body properly it feels a world better. Like Tony says, there are good days and bad for parts of the body that are injured--but I find that at my age, working hard at this, I'm having many more good than bad.


What supplement stack are you using? Anyone else?
 
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Just wanted to update on here since it has been about 45 days since I started.

Things are going great. I have went from a 38 to a 33 and those are geting loose. I have doen a great job of eating right and take Whey protein after each workout.

My arms are getting more defined and im getting better at yoga. I am overall pleasec with the program thus far and will be looking for something to complement it after the 90 days.

I will do it a second time, but not for a month or so after done. I feel great though.
 
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NateG;1887095; said:
Just wanted to update on here since it has been about 45 days since I started.

Things are going great. I have went from a 38 to a 33 and those are geting loose. I have doen a great job of eating right and take Whey protein after each workout.

My arms are getting more defined and im getting better at yoga. I am overall pleasec with the program thus far and will be looking for something to complement it after the 90 days.

I will do it a second time, but not for a month or so after done. I feel great though.

Wow, that is awesome. Congrats!
 
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NateG;1887095; said:
Just wanted to update on here since it has been about 45 days since I started.

Things are going great. I have went from a 38 to a 33 and those are geting loose. I have doen a great job of eating right and take Whey protein after each workout.

My arms are getting more defined and im getting better at yoga. I am overall pleasec with the program thus far and will be looking for something to complement it after the 90 days.

I will do it a second time, but not for a month or so after done. I feel great though.

Nice work!! You're halfway done and you went from a 38 to a 33...now after the 2nd half you'll be down to a 28!!! :wink:

Keep it up! Home stretch!
 
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