P90x

[DubCoffman62]

No.

Why is that?

 

[jwinslow]

Since clearly you are too lazy to look up the answer yourself...

http://tinyurl.com/3ozfzw8

 

[powerlifter]

Compound exercises with free weights and surplus food

 

[DubCoffman62]

Since clearly you are too lazy to look up the answer yourself...

http://tinyurl.com/3ozfzw8

Wow, that was cool, thanks

 

[muffler dragon]

Is long distance running not good for strength training? I'm kind of addicted.

Running is very static on the muscles whereas strength traiining works them in dynamic ways. Complete opposites when developing musculature.

 

[DubCoffman62]

Well here's want I'd like to do. When I was in my 20's I weighed 200lbs and had a 32" inch waist. I'm now 42 and still have a 32" waist but I weigh 25lbs less. As far as I can tell the weight loss has occurred in my legs, shoulders and chest. I'd like to try to get that back without going up in waist size.

 

[Oneshot]

Since clearly you are too lazy to look up the answer yourself...

http://tinyurl.com/3ozfzw8

Typically, i'm a fan of LMGTFY; however, in this situation I'd have to say that it's not unreasonable to ask that in this thread.

There are millions of conflicting answers that are jumbled around the internet, and this thread is a community for people sharing personal anecdotes - seems like he was looking for answers from the knowledgeable people in here than out in the jumbled world of Google.

 

[powerlifter]

Typically, i'm a fan of LMGTFY; however, in this situation I'd have to say that it's not unreasonable to ask that in this thread.

There are millions of conflicting answers that are jumbled around the internet, and this thread is a community for people sharing personal anecdotes - seems like he was looking for answers from the knowledgeable people in here than out in the jumbled world of Google.

Well the first thing to look at is the world's top distance runners. They are small muscular wise with extremely low bodyfat. Not only does repetitive motion with very low resistance not build mass,but it also burns a ton of calories. So much that it's hard to gain any size at all.

If you want size,then free weights with compound movements and more calories(obviously the macros of the foods will dictate what type of gains you are getting) then you are currently eating are the best solution. IMO strength comes from the type of training you are doing..not necessarily just gaining size. If you name a serious strength workout,not only have I done it,but there's a really good chance i've had face to face discussions with the original authors.

 

[Dryden]

Well here's want I'd like to do. When I was in my 20's I weighed 200lbs and had a 32" inch waist. I'm now 42 and still have a 32" waist but I weigh 25lbs less. As far as I can tell the weight loss has occurred in my legs, shoulders and chest. I'd like to try to get that back without going up in waist size.

Sprint for 30 seconds, walk for 90 seconds. Repeat 10 times. For optimum calf development, do it barefoot in a park or on a beach.

Endurance cardio (aerobic) is good for maintaining weight, building endurance, and toning, but it's counterproductive to muscle growth. Its inflammatory, overworks the adrenals, and floods your body with cortisol (stress hormone).

Intense cardio (anaerobic) is what you need to pursue to add lean mass. Eat more, lift heavy, and sprint like your life depends on it.

 

[DubCoffman62]

Sprint for 30 seconds, walk for 90 seconds. Repeat 10 times. For optimum calf development, do it barefoot in a park or on a beach.

Endurance cardio (aerobic) is good for maintaining weight, building endurance, and toning, but it's counterproductive to muscle growth. Its inflammatory, overworks the adrenals, and floods your body with cortisol (stress hormone).

Intense cardio (anaerobic) is what you need to pursue to add lean mass. Eat more, lift heavy, and sprint like your life depends on it.

Thanks, sounds like a plan. I need something so easy, a caveman could do it.

 

[DubCoffman62]

Compound exercises with free weights and surplus food

Any suggestion on the protein/carb ratio? I'm a creature of habit when it comes to eating and my breakfast almost always consists of about 3/4 cup of oatmeal with about a half cup of strawberries or blueberries, about a half a cup of almond milk and no sugar. Lunch is usually an omelet of two eggs, 4-6ozs of chicken breast meat, about a cup of spinach, 1 potato diced and sauteed in about a tablespoon of olive oil, usually no cheese, a half of an avocado and four corn tortillas. I don't eat a heavy meal at night, usually a granola bar or a bar of dark chocolate. If I snack I usually eat almonds or cashews and some kind of fruit like mangoes, apricots or melon. I also drink something that's called "Essential Green", it's like a smoothie but it's just cold pressed greens, 60 calories per bottle. I occasionally splurge on gelato or ice cream, usually a whole pint at a time maybe once a week. I'd recently bought some cold cuts and ciabatta but that's a really rare treat for me. As far as what I drink it's usually Vitamin Water Zero or regular water with the juice of one lemon.
Anyway, if you have any ideas on what I could change to improve this please let me know.

 

[Dryden]

Any suggestion on the protein/carb ratio? I'm a creature of habit when it comes to eating and my breakfast almost always consists of about 3/4 cup of oatmeal with about a half cup of strawberries or blueberries, about a half a cup of almond milk and no sugar. Lunch is usually an omelet of two eggs, 4-6ozs of chicken breast meat, about a cup of spinach, 1 potato diced and sauteed in about a tablespoon of olive oil, usually no cheese, a half of an avocado and four corn tortillas. I don't eat a heavy meal at night, usually a granola bar or a bar of dark chocolate. If I snack I usually eat almonds or cashews and some kind of fruit like mangoes, apricots or melon. I also drink something that's called "Essential Green", it's like a smoothie but it's just cold pressed greens, 60 calories per bottle. I occasionally splurge on gelato or ice cream, usually a whole pint at a time maybe once a week. I'd recently bought some cold cuts and ciabatta but that's a really rare treat for me. As far as what I drink it's usually Vitamin Water Zero or regular water with the juice of one lemon.
Anyway, if you have any ideas on what I could change to improve this please let me know.

It's funny to say you have oatmeal and no sugar for breakfast, since oats are nothing but a big bowl of sugar. You may as well eat a bowl of Lucky Charms, because your GI tract breaks that down the same way.

Plant fiber from cruciferous vegetables = GOOD
Sticks and twigs from monocot grasses = BAD

My old standby here is to point out how Wilford Brimley went from pitching Quaker Oatmeal to becoming the spokesman for a mail order diabetes supply company.

I'd also drop the Vitamin Water. There is absolutely nothing healthy about it.

Regular Vitamin Water:

vapor distilled/deionized water, crystalline fructose, citric acid, vegetable juice (color), natural flavor, ascorbic acid (vitamin C), natural flavor, vitamin E acetate, magnesium lactate (elecrolyte), calcium lactate (electrolyte), zinc picolinate, monopotassium phosphate (electrolyte), niacin (B3), pantothenic acid (B5), pyridoxine hydrochloride (B6), cyanocobalamine (B12)

That's a beverage full of liquified, processed #2 field corn. And since a bottle is measured to 2.5 servings, there's actually more sugar in it than if you just drank a 12oz can of Coke.

Vitamin Water Zero:

Reverse Osmosis Water, Less than 1% of: Rebiana (Stevia Extract) and Crystalline Fructose and Erythritol (Natural Sweeteners), Calcium Lactate and Potassium Phosphate and Magnesium Lactate (Electrolyte Sources), Citric Acid, Natural Flavors, Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid), Gum Acacia, Beta-Carotene, Sorbitol, Modified Food Starch, Vitamin B3 (Niacinamide), Vitamin E (Alpha-Tocopheryl Acetate), Vitamin B5 (Calcium Pantothenate), Glycerol Ester of Rosin, Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine Hydrochloride), Vitamin B12.

So this stuff trades the Crystalline Fructose (corn) for Stevia Extract, which is a natural sweetener used for centuries by Asian peoples, though they of course eat the whole plant, not an extract manufactured by Cargill. There's also Sorbitol in the Vitamin Water Zero, which is a polyol FODMAP - a sugar alcohol that isn't broken down in the small bowel. Sorbitol and Xylitol are ingredients you find in a lot of caloric-free stuff (sugarless gum). What they do while they sit in our bowels is a subject that is still disputed, but they're there, at least until the diarrhea comes along to get them out as quickly as possible.

I'll pass.

What I take away from your sample meal list is that you've fallen victim to the same trap a lot of Americans have: You're eating a lot of unhealthy stuff that 40 years of slick marketing and junk science has convinced you is healthy. The granola bars and oatmeals and vitamin waters are products of the military-industrial complex and food scientists that are engineering new ways to use up our surplus of commodity grains.

As if we can engineer a diet that's healthier than the one we evolved naturally to eat!

Nutritious foods don't have nutrition labels on them at all. Eat plants and animals. Drink water.

 

[jwinslow]

I agree for training, dieting or recovery tips. This is a pretty basic answer, though, and if anyone deserves some sarcasm it is 62 :p

Typically, i'm a fan of LMGTFY; however, in this situation I'd have to say that it's not unreasonable to ask that in this thread.

There are millions of conflicting answers that are jumbled around the internet, and this thread is a community for people sharing personal anecdotes - seems like he was looking for answers from the knowledgeable people in here than out in the jumbled world of Google.

 

[jwinslow]

Dryden, what do you typically eat for breakfast?

My main issue is fruits. I don't like most of them.

Although the Fusion tastes better than regular V8, so I'll probably stick with it. Haha

Sugar based drinks usually beat veggies in a taste test :p for more on fruits vs veggies, see below

Looks like you already have the most important part down. Keep devouring the protein, but really work at eating more veggies over the fruit. That's probably the hardest part of any fitness program. People equate "eat healthy" with "eat more fruits and vegetables," with emphasis on the fruit, because that satisfies our sweet tooth. That's backwards.

It's really, really hard to do, but you need to commit to yourself to explore the produce aisle at your local market and try things you'd never consider trying before. Things you may not even know exist. Nature's preventitive remedy for thousands of common afflictions are out there, but you'll never enjoy the benefits if apples, oranges and bananas are the only "healthy" foods you ever bring home from the store.

You will need carbs with the amount of energy you'll expend on P90x, but you can still manage it without eating two whole fruit post-workout.

Download this free ebook, and check it out.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/

It's on the right side of the page. Subscribe via email, and then it'll be sent to you. It's five movements (with multiple levels): Push-Up, Pull-Up/Chin-Up, Squat, Handstand, and Plank. There are beginner, intermediate and advanced levels on all of them. The amount of time spent is up to you.

Mark also states clearly that 80% of your "fitness" is based on diet. So you might want to check out the Forums for an understanding on the Primal Diet as well. If you like meat and vegetables (amongst others); then you'll dig it.

Thanks, this might be perfect for me.

Oh, and the funniest part for me is that I used to be able to push my gut out to look pregnant.... I can't now, and that was one of my favorite things to do.... My kids loved it. Too bad...that's over with now.

Steamed cauliflower mashed with real butter (Kerrygold) is actually a pretty good substitute for mashed potatoes, and I hate cauliflower.

interesting, I will give this a shot, because cauliflower is terrible straight up.

Thanks for the feedback guys. Made it through the whole thread and learned a lot.

 

[Dryden]

Dryden, what do you typically eat for breakfast?

A cup of black coffee. I rarely ever eat breakfast, because I'm not hungry in the morning when I wake up.

Lunch for me is usually a big ass salad. That's about 5 cups of organic mixed salad greens, dry broccoli slaw (shredded broccoli, carrots, and red cabbage), bacon, parmesan cheese, caesar dressing (either home made or a minimally processed off-the-shelf brand), with some turkey or chicken breast (again, either home made or minimally processed if I have to go off-the-shelf), and sometimes I'll chow down on some summer sausage with goat cheese.

So usually, lunch looks something like this:

Since I have a wife and three kids, and we've got all those issues that all families tend to have - shuttling the young'uns to daycare, the older one to school and sports, working in a couple hours of yard work twice a week, &c - I don't fret over dinner. If it's a big home cooked meal, I eat what everybody else is having minus the bread and pasta (the carbs). If it's fast food, I try to stay with Chipotle or some bunless double cheeseburgers. If it's an 'everybody fend for themselves' night, I do a three or four egg omelette with ham, scallions & cheddar, or something else that's very high fat, high protein, and zero carb. Eat two 1/3rd pound bunless cheeseburgers and two fried eggs for dinner and you probably won't be hungry for at least 24 hours.

My snacking is usually almonds, full fat whole milk yogurt with some berries, and 85% or darker chocolate.

I cook with full fat butter, rendered animal fat, or coconut oil. Nothing else.

It's pretty simple. My grocery trips take 5 minutes, since 90% of anything I buy is in the first department I enter when I walk into a grocery store. A whole weeks' worth of wonderful, filling, colorful lunches costs me less than $20. Since I eat whole, unprocessed foods that are high in fat, they're far more filling. So much nutrient dense food means I can rarely stomach more than two meals a day.

It is liberating to not be a slave to meal times or portion control. I just eat when I'm hungry, and stop eating when I'm full. For me, that's 12 noon and again around 7 pm.

"Breakfast" is a rather recent invention that I have no use for since I don't carb-crash (if you don't ever eat those insulin spiking cereal grains and monocot grasses, you won't ever get those debilitating hunger pains when your blood sugar crashes a few hours after the carb-loaded meal). Of course, all those processed carbohydrates we tend to eat at breakfast are also more or less a modern, industrial invention.

And I'm the first to admit I'm not 100%. I'm not "all in." I still have lapses. Pepsi is good. Pizzas are yummy. I love to sit down and watch a baseball game and eat three hot dogs with buns and ketchup and finish it off with a 6-pack of beer and a whole 1-lb bag of Cool Ranch Doritos. I don't deny that. I just try to be conscious of it and not allow that to be me, every day anymore (which it used to be for a long, long time). That's more like a once every two-weeks event for me now.