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Dryden;1927361; said:
A cup of black coffee.
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No heavy cream? :)

My snacking is usually almonds, full fat whole milk yogurt with some berries, and 85% or darker chocolate.
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Likewise. What brand of full fat yogurt do you like best? Fage is no longer sold anywhere near me. Nancy's is what's available out here in the PNW, and even it's supply is diminishing. Hard to find full fat.
 
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muffler dragon;1927368; said:
No heavy cream? :)
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No, but I have thrown a whole tablespoon of coconut oil into my coffee before. That makes a very filling cup of coffee.

muffler dragon;1927368; said:
What brand of full fat yogurt do you like best? Fage is no longer sold anywhere near me. Nancy's is what's available out here in the PNW, and even it's supply is diminishing. Hard to find full fat.
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They stopped carrying the full fat Fage everywhere around here too (damn 'fat is bad for you' food nannies!), so I switched to Stonyfield Organic (Plain Whole Milk yogurt in the 32oz tub).

jwinslow;1927392; said:
Thanks for the breakdown.You're raising birds?
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No. I meant home made as in: We do actually buy whole birds and cook them to freeze them on the 364 other days of the year not named Thanksgiving. It's quite cost effective.
 
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No. I meant home made as in: We do actually buy whole birds and cook them to freeze them on the 364 other days of the year not named Thanksgiving. It's quite cost effective.
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So you won't be on one of those 'too many pets' shows :sad2:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1J6zbqOLtc"]YouTube - ‪Too many cats.‬‏[/ame]
 
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Dryden;1927270; said:
It's funny to say you have oatmeal and no sugar for breakfast, since oats are nothing but a big bowl of sugar. You may as well eat a bowl of Lucky Charms, because your GI tract breaks that down the same way.

Plant fiber from cruciferous vegetables = GOOD
Sticks and twigs from monocot grasses = BAD

My old standby here is to point out how Wilford Brimley went from pitching Quaker Oatmeal to becoming the spokesman for a mail order diabetes supply company.

I'd also drop the Vitamin Water. There is absolutely nothing healthy about it.

Regular Vitamin Water:



That's a beverage full of liquified, processed #2 field corn. And since a bottle is measured to 2.5 servings, there's actually more sugar in it than if you just drank a 12oz can of Coke.

Vitamin Water Zero:



So this stuff trades the Crystalline Fructose (corn) for Stevia Extract, which is a natural sweetener used for centuries by Asian peoples, though they of course eat the whole plant, not an extract manufactured by Cargill. There's also Sorbitol in the Vitamin Water Zero, which is a polyol FODMAP - a sugar alcohol that isn't broken down in the small bowel. Sorbitol and Xylitol are ingredients you find in a lot of caloric-free stuff (sugarless gum). What they do while they sit in our bowels is a subject that is still disputed, but they're there, at least until the diarrhea comes along to get them out as quickly as possible.

I'll pass.

What I take away from your sample meal list is that you've fallen victim to the same trap a lot of Americans have: You're eating a lot of unhealthy stuff that 40 years of slick marketing and junk science has convinced you is healthy. The granola bars and oatmeals and vitamin waters are products of the military-industrial complex and food scientists that are engineering new ways to use up our surplus of commodity grains.

As if we can engineer a diet that's healthier than the one we evolved naturally to eat!

Nutritious foods don't have nutrition labels on them at all. Eat plants and animals. Drink water.
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It sounds like you follow the Atkins diet. I wouldn't exactly compare oatmeal to lucky charms, at least it has protein and fiber. I had a friend that was a professional boxer and that's what he ate for breakfast every morning so I figured if it was good enough for him, it was good enough for me too. After I add the almond milk and fruit it's about 300 calories and it keeps me satisfied until midday. I do stay away from refined sugar, that stuff is pure poison. I too drink black coffee, no sugar nor cream.
The vitamin water zero is kind of a new thing. I was drinking Poweraide zero before because after a good run you need them electrolytes (or so I'm told). Throughout the day I normally drink plain bottles water, I weened myself off of soda long ago although I do occasionally enjoy a bottle of the Mexican Coke or Orange Fanta which are sweetened with cane sugar instead of corn syrup, no nasty aftertaste.
I almost never eat rice or pasta but I do eat potatoes because they're loaded with vitamins whereas the other two don't have much nutritional value. I have to say though, Asians eat tons of rice and as a people they're generally very healthy but that could be because they also eat lots of fish and vegetables. I don't eat bread on a regular basis but if I do it's a treat and also high quality (as far as taste goes that is) like a fresh French or Italian bread like ciabatta. About once a month I'll but a tray of Italian cold cuts like capocollo, mortadella and rosmarino.
So what would recommend as an electrolyte replacement? Pretty much everything on the market has some kind of naughty ingredient in it. I have found one other recently, it's called Zico it's ingredients are 100% coconut water from concentrate and natural flavors. It's 14 Fl. Oz per serving and it contains 13g of carbs and 12g of sugar.
 
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jwinslow;1927308; said:
:lol: Sugar based drinks usually beat veggies in a taste test :p for more on fruits vs veggies, see below
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I've actually just went strictly with water and 100% natural apple juice (occasionally, I bought two gallons last week and haven't opened either).

Well, beer too, but not for nutritious reasons. :p
 
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To me, it sounds more like a paleo-esque food plan than Atkins. I recently went to a more paleo-like eating plan. Really reducing processed foods. I eat very little processed sugars and processed oils and limit my daily intake of grains, legumes and dairy. I know a lot of strict paelo plan folks completely eliminate dairy, legumes and grains, but I think there are some benefits to each so long as they are eaten in moderation. Right now, I would say that 80% of my food intake consists of fish, poultry, vegetables, fruit, nuts and grass-fed meats (bison, beef, etc).

I occassionally do P90x when I can't get to the gym. The vast majority of my working out involves full-body lifts, i.e., cleans, jerks, snatches, deadlift, and tons of kettlebell work. At one time I was into long distance running, but my cardio now is limited to swimming, rowing, interval running and basketball.

I haven't been on the paleo-like eating plan long, about two weeks, but I have already lost 7 lbs and 2.5 inches off my waist.

Has anyone here went strict-paleo? If so, what kind of results have you seen?
 
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BuckeyeMac;1927492; said:
What is this coconut oil/coconut water you guys are speaking of? I've never heard of it
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Ask your grandmother. We used to cook with coconut oil (and beef tallow, and lard) for decades before the food police blamed it for raising cholesterol and causing heart disease in the 70s. Movie theaters were even still popping popcorn in coconut oil into the early 90s until Michael Jacobson and the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI) got it out of the theaters and replaced with "heart healthy" seed oils.

KFC used to fry their chicken in coconut oil. Since coconut oil is high fat, the food nannies sued KFC to get it out of the restaurants and replaced with partially hydrogenated rapeseed oil (canola). Thanks CSPI! Then, the CSPI found out that the hydrogenated canola oil was worse than the tallow and coconut, so they sued KFC again, this time in 2006, to get that oil out of the restaurant (which KFC only used since they were sued by the same people 20 years ago) and now replaced with trans fat free, partially hydrogenated soybean oil.

McDonald's fried their french fries in beef tallow (which is precisely what gave McDonald's fries their distinct, popular taste) for decades until the vegans and Hindus found out and got the tallow out of the chain in 1990. Now, McDonald's french fries are fried in vegetable oil (corn, which isn't actually a vegetable at all), and the 'flavor' that we remember being so great in the McDonald's fries (the tallow) is instead manufactured at a chemical plant off the New Jersey Turnpike by a company named International Flavors & Fragrances, or just IFF, for short.

FWIW, Michael Jacobson and the rest of the quacks at CSPI are all vegans, and they get funding from the soy industry.

All these hydrogenated seed oils (rapeseed, soy, corn, &c) are not only terrible for our health in their natural state, but virtually all of them go rancid under heat.

Tallow, lard, and coconut oil do not. We ate these things for millenia with no adverse health effects. In fact, the reason we first looked at seed oils over coconut oil at all had nothing to do with health, rather it was the lack of an invention that came along much later called "air conditioning." Coconut and butter and so forth all begin to liquify at around 76 degrees. Crisco and the hydrogenated oil based margerines stay solid well into 90 degrees and beyond. The later were all ideal for baking in the summer, which was the only time grandma would ever touch the stuff.
 
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muffler dragon;1927850; said:
Bought my first pint of Lard a few weekends ago. I am so pleased with how easy it melts, and it's crystal clear. Great way to skillet-cook a steak!
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I always cook my bacon in my cast iron skillet in order to drain off the grease into a jar after I am done. That keeps in the fridge for a long time and is wonderful to use for steaks. I also used it when I am scrambling eggs. Love the flavor it brings to the dish.
 
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