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OSU on the road 2001-current

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Golferdow01: "Get a quick score on the board if you can. Run some trick plays, do anything to get that score."

I was never a fan of trick plays. To me (and yes, I am a very arrogant fan), this is Ohio State. There are only two or three games (at most) per season where the opposing team has as much talent as we do. I'm a big believer in stepping on the field, exerting your will, and just "out-athlete"-ing (not a word, I know) the other team.

Tressel's biggest strength is also his biggest weakness. He gets his teams to play like the underdog in every game they play. This is great for scUM and Bowl games, because we're never going to walk in those games overconfident (like the Cooper years) and get our doors blown off.

However, it also causes us to play down to our opponent at times.

Just look at the offense we run: Ohio State should never run the spread offense. The spread is for a mid-level power (like Purdue or Michigan State, sometimes Northwestern) with the principle of essentially playing 9 on 9 football, with 2 offensive players and 2 defensive players taken out of the play.

Purdue (for example), can therefore match up with a better team with the spread because maybe their 9 best on Offense can play with Ohio State's 9 best on defense. However, as you go down the depth chart, eventually OSU's talent will prevail. If you're OSU, you want a full compliment of offensive firepower overwhelming the opposition.

The offensive philosophy and system (or lack thereof) under Tressel makes less and less sense to me.
 
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Sloopy45 said:
Golferdow01: "Get a quick score on the board if you can. Run some trick plays, do anything to get that score."

I was never a fan of trick plays. To me (and yes, I am a very arrogant fan), this is Ohio State. There are only two or three games (at most) per season where the opposing team has as much talent as we do. I'm a big believer in stepping on the field, exerting your will, and just "out-athlete"-ing (not a word, I know) the other team.
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This attitude is part of the downfall of the Oklahoma Sooners. Back in the day, Bob Stoops wasn't afraid to gamble. Fake field goals. Fake punts. Trickeration.

Now he doesn't do any of that stuff. He just tries to beat everyone with his athletes (starting with Peterson). Doesn't always work.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
So whats your point? Lower our expectations to IU's level?

The pieces were in place to make a NC run this year and once again the offense has decided to not participate. The frustration with that tired old theme has nothing to do with spoiled fans and unrealistic expectations.
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EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!

This is what I am reading as well. I am getting pretty beat up on my rep because of it but there are too many fans that simply accept defeat and resign themselves to 8-3 or 9-2. They are satisified that we lost to better teams. I expect to beat these teams...and I am certain the kids on the field do to. Yes, I think we can win out and will do everything I can as a fan to support our team. That also includes ranting about our current issues.
 
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UGABuck said:
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!

This is what I am reading as well. I am getting pretty beat up on my rep because of it but there are too many fans that simply accept defeat and resign themselves to 8-3 or 9-2. They are satisified that we lost to better teams. I expect to beat these teams...and I am certain the kids on the field do to. Yes, I think we can win out and will do everything I can as a fan to support our team. That also includes ranting about our current issues.
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Hello? You do realize those games are over, right? I don't recall myself or anyone else coming on here before Texas/PSU calling our opponent the better team and hoping for a loss... But once the loss is a reality, there's no harm in being a good sport about it and looking forward. Go ahead and rant, but don't whine about your rep and don't expect everyone else to share your pessimistic views.
 
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BayBuck said:
Hello? You do realize those games are over, right? I don't recall myself or anyone else coming on here before Texas/PSU calling our opponent the better team and hoping for a loss... But once the loss is a reality, there's no harm in being a good sport about it and looking forward. Go ahead and rant, but don't whine about your rep and don't expect everyone else to share your pessimistic views.
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thats almost exactly what i've been saying to that guy, and if it wasn't for me not being able to give any more rep today, i would give him some neg right now
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Record: 11-8 (.579)
Total Pts: 376-360
Avg Score: 19.8-18.9


Sorry folks, thats unfucking acceptable. Take out the miracle of 2002 when we went 4-0 on the road and JT's 7-8 after tonights debacle.

Forget the shitty offense for a minute and dwell on this fact, we can't win on the road at much better than a .500 clip.

As much as I love JT he needs to rethink what he's doing offensively and what he's doing in order to get the team prepared to go on the road because both area's have been lacking his entire time in Columbus.
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JT's performance as a coach the last 2 years is as bad as Cooper's final years. Frankly, I'd be surprised if he's still wearing the headset in 5 years.
 
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Here's a stat some of you might like to show how effective our offense has been. Including 2002 and beyond we've played 26 Big 10 games...and scored 575 points (110 of those coming from Indiana mind you)...that's an average of 22 ppg. Every team in the Big 10 is averaging more than 22 a game this year except for Illinois (they are at 21). We wouldn't even crack the top 80 out of 119 D-1A schools with that scoring offense. And almost 1/5 of those points come from 3 games against Indiana!!!! I think maybe we need to find a way to score more points in the Big 10. They see us every year...maybe our offense is so obvious that the Big 10 knows exactly how to stop it. Just a thought.
 
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JonathanXC said:
Here's a stat some of you might like to show how effective our offense has been. Including 2002 and beyond we've played 26 Big 10 games...and scored 575 points (110 of those coming from Indiana mind you)...that's an average of 22 ppg. Every team in the Big 10 is averaging more than 22 a game this year except for Illinois (they are at 21). We wouldn't even crack the top 80 out of 119 D-1A schools with that scoring offense. And almost 1/5 of those points come from 3 games against Indiana!!!! I think maybe we need to find a way to score more points in the Big 10. They see us every year...maybe our offense is so obvious that the Big 10 knows exactly how to stop it. Just a thought.
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This stat does not show how effective the offense is, rather, it shows how pretty the offense is. some may gauge effectiveness in points, i understand that. i prefer to judge offense in wins, same as defense.

I know there is not one tOSU fan happy about this loss. Comments and suggestions and ideas are all in fun, but when some accountant or doctor, or ditch digger starts to think they have answers that JT somehow overlooked, thats when I start to cringe. Its ridiculous.

"We wouldnt even crack the top 80 out of 119 D-1A schools with that scoring offense." True, but over that same time span, NO other big ten team has gone undefeated and won a NC. Just my opinion.
 
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