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OSU BCS Top 10

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What's all this nonsense about computers? Sagarin has us at #4 and, on average, we are at #5 across all the polls when margin of victory in figured in. None of us have a problem with that, right? :biggrin:

Why Oklahoma and no Auburn? Strength of schedule in the BCS formula. Sagarin has these at #8 and #82 respectively. Even when margin of victory is figured in Auburn is only rated at #21 and Oklahoma is at #24.

Oklahoma lost to TCU, Texas and UCLA, a combined 24-1. Opponents to date 46-19. Teams that they beat have a record of 22-18. Every team Oklahoma has played has at least a .500 record.

Auburn lost to Georgia Tech and LSU, a combined 11-3. Opponents to date are 31-30. Teams that they beat have a record of 20-27, and they include some real powder puffs. Only 4 of the teams that Auburn has played are above .400.

Personally, I think that they probably will both end up with four losses, although I like Auburn to come off a loss and sneak up on Alabama.
 
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Well, jsut for the record, I dont see ND beating Tenn. this weekend. ND has had a week off to prepare, but Tenn. is comming to town with something better - rage and the guilt to prove your worth. I seriously think its a tie between Purdue and UT as to who was more overrated this year, but no way will Fulmer and his crew allow themselves to not go bowling or even get one more quality win under their belts.

Cmon Tenn, VaTech, USC, and Wisky!!!
 
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BuckeyePride85 said:
Well, jsut for the record, I dont see ND beating Tenn. this weekend. ND has had a week off to prepare, but Tenn. is comming to town with something better - rage and the guilt to prove your worth. I seriously think its a tie between Purdue and UT as to who was more overrated this year, but no way will Fulmer and his crew allow themselves to not go bowling or even get one more quality win under their belts.
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I don't know that I can agree with that. Tennessee is a mess. Fulmer has zero confidence in any of the QBs and their star RB, Gerald Riggs Jr. is out for the rest of the season. Even with Riggs they couldn't crack the Top-100 in rushing offense.

I'm sure the fellas from Army, Buffalo, and Temple play for pride too, but it doesn't mean too much on Saturdays when the team is simply outgunned and outcoached. Tennessee was giftwrapped the LSU game and probably should have lost the UAB game too. This team should be 1-6.

Regardless, can anyone believe that the epic in-state rivalry, Tennessee/Vanderbilt, could be between two 5-5 teams playing for a bowl game? :lol:
 
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I am not so sure about the ND and Tenn game. Everyone reasons man they will be pissed and spitting fire now... well last year when we got embarrased by NW we should have been coming out spitting fire, etc, but when a team is struggling it hard to get out of that funk. Hell even if ND loses they will only drop to 10 at the most...lol
 
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methomps said:
So now you guys are rooting for USC and against ND just a few weeks removed from rooting for ND and against USC? Just make up your minds already.
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We were rooting for the upset, just like America loves to see. Now we are getting to that time of year where the only team we care about is OSU and are looking at the loopholes and other ways to get OSU into the BCS. We will turn our backs against any team to help the Buckeyes - well, if you are a true fan that is. We need Miami, UCLA, ND, Penn St. to get the hell out of the way this weekend. If an unbeaten like VaTech, Texas or USC drops it hurts our chances into a BCS game. Thats why we root for outside teams on a week-to-week basis. lol.
 
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Good point about Va Tech beating Miami. Here's one scenario that works: VT wins out and stays at #3, beating Miami and FSU, knocking them below us in the BCS. We'd still need a PSU loss, maybe a second UCLA loss (other than USC), along with losses by LSU and Alabama to put us at a possible #4 with three conference champs ahead of us. That gives ND a lot of teams to climb over in the computer polls to get to #6, and I don't see them doing it.

It's still very possible that we can get the B10 BCS bid outright, however.
 
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here is something quite interesting!... (a loophole)

Bowl Championship Series (BCS) - Rose, Orange, Sugar, Fiesta Bowls. In the event the Conference football champion or co-champion has a No. 1 or 2 ranking in the Bowl Championship Series poll, the Conference champion or co-champion shall participate in the BCS national championship game. If two or more teams are tied for the Conference championship, and one of the tied teams is ranked No. 1 or No. 2 in the BCS poll, that team shall participate in the BCS national championship game, and the other team(s) will be available for selection as an at-large team in the BCS pool. In years that the Rose Bowl hosts the national championship game and the Conference champion is not ranked No. 1 or No. 2, the champion or co-champion will be available for selection by the Orange, Sugar, Fiesta, or other bowls designated for inclusion in the BCS. If the champion or co-champion is not ranked No. 1 or 2, that team shall participate in the Rose Bowl in years when the Rose Bowl is not hosting the national championship game as follows:
(then follows the tiebreakers)

Here!... re-read


In years that the Rose Bowl hosts the national championship game and the Conference champion is not ranked No. 1 or No. 2, the champion or co-champion will be available for selection by the Orange, Sugar, Fiesta, or other bowls designated for inclusion in the BCS.


Note: The Rose Bowl is hosting. It does in no way state WHO is the Conference champion, unless the Rose Bowl is the venue. So under that ruling, The BCS could coose ANY Co-Champion, as it chooses.
 
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Dryden said:
I don't know that I can agree with that. Tennessee is a mess. Fulmer has zero confidence in any of the QBs and their star RB, Gerald Riggs Jr. is out for the rest of the season. Even with Riggs they couldn't crack the Top-100 in rushing offense.

I'm sure the fellas from Army, Buffalo, and Temple play for pride too, but it doesn't mean too much on Saturdays when the team is simply outgunned and outcoached. Tennessee was giftwrapped the LSU game and probably should have lost the UAB game too. This team should be 1-6.

Regardless, can anyone believe that the epic in-state rivalry, Tennessee/Vanderbilt, could be between two 5-5 teams playing for a bowl game? :lol:
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You are correct, their lineup is a mess, but I guess Ive blinded myself with their preseason ranks and ND'd lack of "good" opponents that I can see Tenn. comming away with a dubya. I believe ND is 1-2 at home this season (losses to MSU and USC).
 
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BuckeyePride85 said:
We were rooting for the upset, just like America loves to see. Now we are getting to that time of year where the only team we care about is OSU and are looking at the loopholes and other ways to get OSU into the BCS. We will turn our backs against any team to help the Buckeyes - well, if you are a true fan that is. We need Miami, UCLA, ND, Penn St. to get the hell out of the way this weekend. If an unbeaten like VaTech, Texas or USC drops it hurts our chances into a BCS game. Thats why we root for outside teams on a week-to-week basis. lol.
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Have you considered that rooting for ND is a sin, and thus you are being punished by ND not dropping in the polls? :biggrin:
 
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BrutusBobcat said:
Good point about Va Tech beating Miami. Here's one scenario that works: VT wins out and stays at #3, beating Miami and FSU, knocking them below us in the BCS. We'd still need a PSU loss, maybe a second UCLA loss (other than USC), along with losses by LSU and Alabama to put us at a possible #4 with three conference champs ahead of us.
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LSU and Bama play each other, and I don't know that Bama @ Auburn in the Iron Bowl is a given. Also, keep in mind that the Big-10 finishes early, so OSU would presumably be in the clubhouse with a 9-2 record and Big-10 title (outright or not, OSU's season ends Nov. 19), while the USC/UCLA contest, plus all the CCG's are still two weeks away (Dec 3). Because of the timing, one UCLA loss would probably be enough to put a 10-1 UCLA below a 9-2 Ohio State, particularly with how precariously UCLA has been hanging on to it's undefeated season. IMO, pollsters are just looking for the excuse to sink UCLA like they did Texas Tech.

The more scenarios I kick around the only combination of events that always locks out OSU from being #8 or higher is having two or more ACC teams ahead of them. Va. Tech must win out.
 
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