Oregon Ducks

[ORD_Buckeye]

Thanks for posting the link Script.

I must admit that living here has given me an interesting perspective on Knight and the UofO. In addition to the state of academics at the public level in this state, it's concerning. I recall the recent statements that people were making about Harbaugh being concerned about potentially taking a high dollar salary in a depressed market such as Detroit. Well... to spend such ungodly amounts of money in this state on athletics does seem rather disproportionate. By all means, Knight is free to (and does) spend his money wherevery he likes. Just seems awkward to me.

I know Oregon likes to present itself as a peer of U-Dub and the UC campuses out there, but the reality is that they are far below those institutions. I got into a debate with a Duck last year who tried to throw down some academic smack and looked up their numbers. I was shocked to find out that their Honors College which accepted only 190 students had a lower admissions profile than Ohio State's entire freshman class of 6120. Rankings, department rankings, research funding and faculty indicators were even worse.

Is Knight doing anything for Oregon's academics or is it all about piling on newer and more garish athletic facilities?

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

Is Knight doing anything for Oregon's academics or is it all about piling on newer and more garish athletic facilities?

Rhodes Scholars wear Keds.

You do the math.

:p

 

[muffler dragon]

I know Oregon likes to present itself as a peer of U-Dub and the UC campuses out there, but the reality is that they are far below those institutions. I got into a debate with a Duck last year who tried to throw down some academic smack and looked up their numbers. I was shocked to find out that their Honors College which accepted only 190 students had a lower admissions profile than Ohio State's entire freshman class of 6120. Rankings, department rankings, research funding and faculty indicators were even worse.

Is Knight doing anything for Oregon's academics or is it all about piling on newer and more garish athletic facilities?

As I understand it, not a cent goes towards academics in facilities or other types of expenditures. Moreover, the state is having a tremendously hard time on having sufficient monies in and of itself to improve the states schools at any level. Thus, there is no opportunity for improvement period.

One other thing I've learned is that the state of Oregon doesn't have a quote-unquote flagship school in the manner which you describe tOSU. There are programs at different schools that get primary funding. Case in point: UO doesn't have engineering programs; those are at OSU. Thus, that money goes there.

For as much as I love this state (and I do very much), there are things that leave me wanting considerably (academics, industry, employment, agendas based on small minorities, etc).

 

[MaliBuckeye]

As I understand it, not a cent goes towards academics in facilities or other types of expenditures. Moreover, the state is having a tremendously hard time on having sufficient monies in and of itself to improve the states schools at any level. Thus, there is no opportunity for improvement period.

One other thing I've learned is that the state of Oregon doesn't have a quote-unquote flagship school in the manner which you describe tOSU. There are programs at different schools that get primary funding. Case in point: UO doesn't have engineering programs; those are at OSU. Thus, that money goes there.

For as much as I love this state (and I do very much), there are things that leave me wanting considerably (academics, industry, employment, agendas based on small minorities, etc).

The finances issues at Oregon are a bit of a controversy these days, as you mention; particularly since none of the Nike money goes to academics, while state and tuition money is used to support the athletic department.

Cal is having the same conversations/problems.

More here: Silver Bullet Points ('bout half way down).

 

[muffler dragon]

The finances issues at Oregon are a bit of a controversy these days, as you mention; particularly since none of the Nike money goes to academics, while state and tuition money is used to support the athletic department.

And yet, tuition-paying students aren't permitted to use the facilities (so I've been told or read somewhere).

 

[jlb1705]

That's just downright creepy.

Did you see the part about the women's restrooms?

 

[DubCoffman62]

As I understand it, not a cent goes towards academics in facilities or other types of expenditures. Moreover, the state is having a tremendously hard time on having sufficient monies in and of itself to improve the states schools at any level. Thus, there is no opportunity for improvement period.

One other thing I've learned is that the state of Oregon doesn't have a quote-unquote flagship school in the manner which you describe tOSU. There are programs at different schools that get primary funding. Case in point: UO doesn't have engineering programs; those are at OSU. Thus, that money goes there.

For as much as I love this state (and I do very much), there are things that leave me wanting considerably (academics, industry, employment, agendas based on small minorities, etc).

I remember when as a kid my father took us from Ohio and we ended up in Oregon. It was the first time that I'd ever seen hippies. You'd see them walking up I-5 north og Grants Pass towards Wolf Creek and there was a lot of them in the Cave Junction area and Ruch, a wide spot in the road west of Medford. There were also lots of gold prospectors, loggers, hillbilly types and cattle ranchers. It was an interesting mix. We would up in the Grants Pass area for a while. It was a neat little town, kind of like a small midwestern town. It had the old one screen movie theater with the balcony, the Dairy Queen with the walk up window, just a mellow small town. I went back up there to visit about 20 years later and it like the Shire from Lord of the Rings after Saruman arrived. Empty store fronts, meth freaks, you name it. There was also a large population of Seventh Day Adventists. Plain and simple it was depressing. I have lots of bad memories of Oregon that from the ordeal that my father put us through but in between there was lots of good memories and experiences and those mainly had to do with Oregon itself. Although the scenery is still beautiful the towns really are depressing. I don't think that I could go back.
My main point was little did I realize that those freaky looking people walking up the interstate would someday be running the place.

 

[Muck]

Did you see the part about the women's restrooms?

LOL Yeah. I just glossed it over as being typical journalistic license ...that there's more to the story than is being told ie the etchings are probably in the men's restrooms as well and they were all originally slated for someplace else but got used in the restrooms by mistake/leftovers whatever.

I could certainly be wrong. :)

Just the idea of someone telling Coach Tressel that he needs to keep Leslie Wexner informed of all play calls before they go out to the team on the field is so mind boggling that it begins to warp my concept of reality...like non euclidean geometry or watching a shoggoth feed.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Just the idea of someone telling Coach Tressel that he needs to keep Leslie Wexner informed of all play calls before they go out to the team on the field is so mind boggling that it begins to warp my concept of reality...like non euclidean geometry or watching a shoggoth feed.

Just the idea of Les Wexner or John Ong or Bill Lowery or any of our other whale alumni giving a [Mark May] about listening to plays being called is beyond absurd.

 

[muffler dragon]

I remember when as a kid my father took us from Ohio and we ended up in Oregon. It was the first time that I'd ever seen hippies. You'd see them walking up I-5 north og Grants Pass towards Wolf Creek and there was a lot of them in the Cave Junction area and Ruch, a wide spot in the road west of Medford. There were also lots of gold prospectors, loggers, hillbilly types and cattle ranchers. It was an interesting mix. We would up in the Grants Pass area for a while. It was a neat little town, kind of like a small midwestern town. It had the old one screen movie theater with the balcony, the Dairy Queen with the walk up window, just a mellow small town. I went back up there to visit about 20 years later and it like the Shire from Lord of the Rings after Saruman arrived. Empty store fronts, meth freaks, you name it. There was also a large population of Seventh Day Adventists. Plain and simple it was depressing. I have lots of bad memories of Oregon that from the ordeal that my father put us through but in between there was lots of good memories and experiences and those mainly had to do with Oregon itself. Although the scenery is still beautiful the towns really are depressing. I don't think that I could go back.
My main point was little did I realize that those freaky looking people walking up the interstate would someday be running the place.

Emboldened is sad, but true.

FWIW, Grants Pass, Medford, White City, Ashland etc. are rather industrialized; however, there are still the elements. The town I'll stay the hell away from is Roseburg. Carlos Mencia can have that shit hole.

 

[DubCoffman62]

Emboldened is sad, but true.

FWIW, Grants Pass, Medford, White City, Ashland etc. are rather industrialized; however, there are still the elements. The town I'll stay the hell away from is Roseburg. Carlos Mencia can have that [Mark May] hole.

What makes Roseburg so bad?

 

[muffler dragon]

What makes Roseburg so bad?

I just don't particularly like the place. I should note that I'm more familiar with Dillard and Winston though.

 

[WolverineMike]

Spirited effort by the Ducks. They were seemingly manhandled all game but were still in it until the end. Even after Oregon scored and got the two pointer, I still felt confident that Auburn was going to score again. Tough loss i'm sure, but I think Oregon earned some respect last night. A lot of people thought they were going to get blown out. Should be a top 5 team again next year with James coming back.

 

[Mrstickball]

One fun fact: Ohio State has played next years' BCS National Championship loser 2 years in a row at their bowl games (Texas and Oregon). If Arky makes it to the NC game next year, that'd be 3 in a row :-)

 

[NFBuck]

Spirited effort by the Ducks. They were seemingly manhandled all game but were still in it until the end. Even after Oregon scored and got the two pointer, I still felt confident that Auburn was going to score again. Tough loss i'm sure, but I think Oregon earned some respect last night. A lot of people thought they were going to get blown out. Should be a top 5 team again next year with James coming back.

Who thought they were going to get blown out? Everything I saw was forecasting a good game. I don't think they "earned respect", I think they were exposed as the gimmicky frauds they were. Second straight year their "unstoppable offense" was stymied against a sold defense in a bowl. Beaver spent the entire season saying oregon was what scUM would eventually be. Guess they were a lot closer than they thought.