Game Thread Orange Bowl: tOSU vs Clemson, Jan 3, 8:30 ET, ESPN

[SloopyHangOn]

I don't think he was able to fully extend his arm upright for most of the game.

Every throw that needed air under it was a low line drive. I haven't been one to throw Braxton under the bus as much as some, but it wouldn't be a matter of scheme to sub in Kenny if he simply CAN'T make throws.

 

[buckeyebri]

I think we will really see what kind of coach Urban is with these two losses. What changes happen and when. How will this impact recruiting. Can he bring the swagger back to the Buckeyes, especially the defense.

 

[BUCKDUBBS007]

Next year is going to feel like an eternity.

At least we can watch basketball for now!

 

[GoBucksForever]

That was so painful to watch with the defense getting shredded all night and Braxton's terrible passing. Oh well, still got basketball and next season to gear up for.

 

[Bucklion]

No it was not, but again, there were 2 defensive coordinators. We have limited depth at linebacker, and three first time starters in this game. not sure why people expect a 2002 level defensive performance, because clemson are not exactly a bunch of moops on offense either.

No one expected 2002...but expecting a top 35 calibur defense should be normal, and has been normal, here for a long time. The precipitous dropoff is worrisome, and it wasn't just this year.

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

We would have been raped.

i see what you did there...

 

[youra6]

Think positive, think positive.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Possibly the most pivotal off-season for the program since Tressel's first year. I'm interested to see what happens.

 

[JCOSU86]

Be cocky, Watkins. When you are hating life next year in Cleveland you'll regret it.

 

[ysubuck]

He isn't ready to play at that level and perhaps never will be, but at this point I wouldn't blame him one bit if he decided he stopped wanting to take the kind of hits he took today for free. I mean, it won't be life-changing money but maybe he should get what he can while the gettin's still good.

If he doesn't go I hope that the QB competition with JT Barrett is fierce this summer.

Braxton just looks completely puzzled at times and he should be comfortable running the offense at this point.

He's a dynamic runner there is no doubt, but I'll bet my next 3 paychecks he never throws a meaningful NFL pass.

 

[lvbuckeye]

GTFO.

Urban has as many wins in The Game in two seasons as Coop did in 13.

 

[osucollegebuck]

If changes aren't made there is no more blaming Fickell, it will all be on Urban.

 

[Bucklion]

I think we will really see what kind of coach Urban is with these two losses. What changes happen and when. How will this impact recruiting. Can he bring the swagger back to the Buckeyes, especially the defense.

I agree with this...we will really get a look at how elite he is at running an elite program now. And buckaroo. And big boy pants. And "holding on 10 yard defense #25 first half the distance repeat the automatic 2nd down" or whatever the fuck the ref was saying all night.

 

[SloopyHangOn]

Possibly the most pivotal off-season for the program since Tressel's first year. I'm interested to see what happens.

Not to question it, but what exactly makes you feel that way? Coaching changes? Player development?

 

[ysubuck]

Changes have to be made. There is no way the defensive staff survives this. This is a lower tier MAC level defense.