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OOC Scheduling

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  • I like 1 marquee home-and-home & 3 in-state schools

    Votes: 15 18.8%

  • 1 marquee opponents; 2 games against lesser out of state schools; 1 in-state school at home

    Votes: 61 76.3%

  • No in-state schools--it's a lose-lose

    Votes: 4 5.0%
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Either stick with how it is now, or use that "extra" game to play another BCS conference opponent. We'll never be able to convince any other school besides in-state mid majors to give up their home games.

OR, we could use those two games and, you know, actually play a full round robin with all the Big 10 teams and never have another split title.
 
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rocketman;1219428; said:
... We'll never be able to convince any other school besides in-state mid majors to give up their home games...
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I think that overstates it just a bit. We've had Texas Tech and Washington State accept games at the 'Shoe without a return trip. Other 2nd tier BCS teams would probably accept it too.
 
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College football: OSU battles a scheduling image USC doesn't face
Sunday, August 17, 2008
By Ken Gordon and Tim May
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

Ohio State and Southern California meet Sept. 13 in what everyone agrees is the nation's marquee nonconference game of the season.

But look past that game, and it's obvious that the two schools' scheduling philosophies vary drastically.

Prior to the OSU game, USC is taking on Virginia, and holds its annual clash with Notre Dame later on. The Trojans play a nine-game Pacific 10 schedule, so their stout nonconference matchups mean they will play all 12 games against teams in the Bowl Championship Series agreement.

In contrast, Ohio State warms up with Youngstown State, a Football Championship Subdivision school, and Ohio. Troy of the Sun Belt Conference follows USC on the slate.

Take away USC, then, and it's the very definition of milquetoast -- like 2007, when OSU took on Youngstown State, Akron, a middling Washington squad and Kent State.

The critics have had a field day with the Buckeyes because of it, particularly in the wake of OSU getting drubbed by Southeastern Conference schools in the past two national title games.
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BuckeyeXtra - The Columbus Dispatch : College football: OSU battles a scheduling image USC doesn't face

Who plays the big boys?
Sunday, August 17, 2008

How the six Bowl Championship Series conferences compare in their nonconference scheduling, in terms of the number of games against other BCS conference teams vs. games against teams from the Football Championship Subdivision (FCS), formerly known as Division I-AA:
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http://dispatch.com/live/content/sp...t_17.ART_ART_08-17-08_C4_EJB1SLG.html?sid=101
 
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Throwing a bone to a MAC school is one thing, scheduling Youngstown State is another. Bring in some Mid/Lower - Level teams from other confereces. I'd love to see a series with Kentucky. Oregon, Oregon State, Syracuse, Pitt, any ACC school, Texas Tech, Kansas, to name just a few. Three in state schools, even two, for a program like Ohio State's is simply record padding.
 
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Where's the vote for "the 4 easiest teams that can be found"? I mean, the system gives you NO reason to play a marquee game. Obviously some already think OSU is dodging teams so why even bother to try?
 
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DaddyBigBucks;1219878; said:
I think that overstates it just a bit. We've had Texas Tech and Washington State accept games at the 'Shoe without a return trip. Other 2nd tier BCS teams would probably accept it too.
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Times change, it would be interesting to know if we could still a 2nd tier BCS team to play in the shoe without a return date.:huh:

However, it is all about the money. Playing the in state schools keeps the money in state, and (in theory) reduces the amount of money that the state has to subsidize the school; and therefore, reduces the state's need to raise taxes.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Ohio State shouldn't be scheduling any 1-AA teams.
 
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souL said:
Where's the vote for "the 4 easiest teams that can be found"? I mean, the system gives you NO reason to play a marquee game. Obviously some already think OSU is dodging teams so why even bother to try?
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I completely disagree. I'd rather see Ohio State play very tough OOC schedules. I'm not worried about having a schedule that is put in place just to win all the games. I'd rather see exciting games. Isn't that the point of sport? To challenge yourself and see how good you really are. I look forward to the games against ranked opponents. The more there are, the more fun the season is.

Scheduling the easy games, like you say you perfer, is like being scared of losing. I don't want to watch a football team that is scared of losing. That's why I enjoy watching a Tressel coached team a lot more than a Cooper coached team.
 
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JonathanXC;1231789; said:
I completely disagree. I'd rather see Ohio State play very tough OOC schedules. I'm not worried about having a schedule that is put in place just to win all the games. I'd rather see exciting games. Isn't that the point of sport? To challenge yourself and see how good you really are. I look forward to the games against ranked opponents. The more there are, the more fun the season is.

Scheduling the easy games, like you say you perfer, is like being scared of losing. I don't want to watch a football team that is scared of losing. That's why I enjoy watching a Tressel coached team a lot more than a Cooper coached team.
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Agreed... until you got to the knock on Coop. Say what you will about Coop's record against Michigan and his bowl record, he revived a program that was slipping behind in the Big 10 and nationally. How soon we forget the end of the Earl Bruce reign, when the on field talent was slipping and Cincinnati was Michigan's recruiting territory.

Sorry about the thread jacking. You may now return to scheduling.
 
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Fuck the critics. We played a home/away series with Texas when they were at their peek, as we will USC. We also have home/away series scheduled against Miami (Fl), Cal, Va Tech, Oklahoma, and Tennessee. We have a set hsitory of playing in-state schools (for a while it was mandated that we play at least one in-state school a year to keep money in-state). Had we won against Florida and/or LSU, no one would be giving our OOC scheduling a second look (no one gave Florida shit about playing Western Carolina in 2006 or LSU shit abot playing Middle Tennessee State in 2007, after they won the national titles for those years). We beat USC and win the national title or even "just" a BCS bowl game, and no one can say shit about us playing YSU, Ohio, and Troy.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1231819; said:
We beat USC and win the national title or even "just" a BCS bowl game, and no one can say [censored] about us playing YSU, Ohio, and Troy.
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In my opinion, you're facing a lose-lose in terms of the national media with the USC game. Not that you personally give two shits about mine or the national media's opinion, but that's my opinion. Here's the deal. If you win, it's "Well, USC is on a down year after replacing Booty, Washington, four fifths of their OL including a first rounder and a second rounder, Fred Davis, Lawrence Jackson, Keith Rivers and Terrell Thomas, among others". If you lose, it's " LOLZ OHIO STATE EPIC FAILZ!!!!!!!11111! They can't hang with the big boys.". I'm not saying it's right, I'm not saying I agree with it (I don't). It's just my opinion that you're not gaining much respect in the national media win or lose, which I think is horseshit.
 
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SNIPER26;1231823; said:
In my opinion, you're facing a lose-lose in terms of the national media with the USC game. Not that you personally give two shits about mine or the national media's opinion, but that's my opinion. Here's the deal. If you win, it's "Well, USC is on a down year after replacing Booty, Washington, four fifths of their OL including a first rounder and a second rounder, Fred Davis, Lawrence Jackson, Keith Rivers and Terrell Thomas, among others". If you lose, it's " LOLZ OHIO STATE EPIC FAILZ!!!!!!!11111! They can't hang with the big boys.". I'm not saying it's right, I'm not saying I agree with it (I don't). It's just my opinion that you're not gaining much respect in the national media win or lose, which I think is horseshit.
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I don't see how that can be, seeing as USC is ranked head of us in the coaches poll and right behind us in the AP poll despite losing all those players.
 
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cincibuck;1231722; said:
Throwing a bone to a MAC school is one thing, scheduling Youngstown State is another. Bring in some Mid/Lower - Level teams from other confereces. I'd love to see a series with Kentucky. Oregon, Oregon State, Syracuse, Pitt, any ACC school, Texas Tech, Kansas, to name just a few. Three in state schools, even two, for a program like Ohio State's is simply record padding.
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Agree'd
 
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