And Texas was #2 beforehand, thanks to what Vince did the year before. While that was a quality win for OSU, it certainly was not the win it appeared to be at first.MililaniBuckeye;1231831; said:
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SNIPER26
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MililaniBuckeye;1231831; said:
Perhaps, but logic and polls don't really seem to mesh too well. (Not that it matters because you just want to finish the season at #1, but Illinois finished ahead of Michigan in the USA Today final poll, despite UM winning @ Illinois, winning their bowl game and Illinois getting ape fucked in the Rose Bowl. Little things like that) All I'm saying is, the national media doesn't exactly love them some Buckeyes. They will look for any excuse to knock down Ohio State, be it fair or not.
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jwinslow;1231834; said:
But Texas didn't have the mystique that the media has bestowed upon USC that last 5-6 years.
SNIPER26;1231836; said:
Well then, why don't we just not play the games then since it's such a lose-lose situation?
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True, but I think Sniper's prediction holds a lot of water.
If OSU comes out and beats them by 3 TDs, you really can't imagine folks making excuses for SC (at the expense of OSU), especially with that much turnover in personnel and Sanchez' injury?
They shouldn't, but I think they will.
Because the NC game is not a lose-lose situation, unless it's against another non-respected opponent.Well then, why don't we just not play the games then since it's such a lose-lose situation?
Because games aren't played for pencil-necks at keyboards and TV sets.
Because they whine about OSU and then vote them right into contention again for another title.
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With the added 12th game, I would want to add a conference game so that there is only one team out of the rotation, rather than two, leaving three OOC games: one the annual home opener vs the in-state MAC team for alumni band day, one vs a Top-10 caliber marquee team, and one vs a Top-25 level team from a different BCS conference, or alternately a top tier non-BCS "mid major" that you can reliably predict will be competitive, such as a Fresno or Boise or BYU or TCU or some-such.
Pushing around YSU and Akron and Kent all in the same season does not prepare the team or make them better. They face tougher competition in the jersey scrimmage.
I would not want to see any series with a lower tier SEC team such as UK, Vandy, or Ole Miss until the team gets over that SEC hump by beating one of the big boys. Otherwise, scheduling one of the doormats will just be perceived negatively throughout the country. If USC can play a Top-5/10 level opponent every year and Notre Dame, there is no reason OSU cannot/should not be doing the same.
It's fashionable to hate USC, but after the behind-the-woodshed beat downs they've laid on teams like Arkansas, Auburn, Virginia Tech, etc ... plus Notre Dame every year for the past six or seven years, they have earned the right to be in the national title discussion and receive the benefit of the doubt every year until PC leaves.
Pushing around YSU and Akron and Kent all in the same season does not prepare the team or make them better. They face tougher competition in the jersey scrimmage.
I would not want to see any series with a lower tier SEC team such as UK, Vandy, or Ole Miss until the team gets over that SEC hump by beating one of the big boys. Otherwise, scheduling one of the doormats will just be perceived negatively throughout the country. If USC can play a Top-5/10 level opponent every year and Notre Dame, there is no reason OSU cannot/should not be doing the same.
It's fashionable to hate USC, but after the behind-the-woodshed beat downs they've laid on teams like Arkansas, Auburn, Virginia Tech, etc ... plus Notre Dame every year for the past six or seven years, they have earned the right to be in the national title discussion and receive the benefit of the doubt every year until PC leaves.
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generaladm
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I think the whole thing was blown out of proportion by last year. The YSU series is not something that will be a regular occurrence. There are no D-IAA teams on the sched in the next five years, and I don't think there will be, except maybe when Tressel is in his last couple of seasons, and wants to play YSU one last time. It was just bad timing that we had our worst OOC sched in decades right after we laid an egg in the NC. People were looking for excuses to bad mouth OSU and the Big Ten; if it wasn't the OOC sched, it would have been the color of shoe laces, or some such nonsense. It's funny how national perception can change in just a few years. Not too long ago, it was considered gutsy for a major program to schedule mid-major "giant killers" like Marshall and Troy. Now those games are percieved as padding the W column.
BTW, Dryden, it is not possible for 11 Big Ten teams to play 9 conference games each. There will either be one team with only 8 games or two teams with 10. The ADs would never approve such a thing.
BTW, Dryden, it is not possible for 11 Big Ten teams to play 9 conference games each. There will either be one team with only 8 games or two teams with 10. The ADs would never approve such a thing.
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jwinslow;1231845; said:
So what? The whole thread is about OOC scheduling and sniper's post makes it sound like we're fucked if we do and fucked if we don't and thus why should we even bother with scheduling big teams.
jwinslow;1231845; said:
Again, who cares about what critics think? As long as we win out and win the NC, we shut everyone, that's everyone, up.
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Bleed S & G
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Let's face it..
The Big 10 sucks so our entire schedule is creampuffs..
We suck.
The Big 10 sucks so our entire schedule is creampuffs..
We suck.
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reagdog
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People will forget about the recent weak scheduling if you guys start scheduling tougher OOC competition.
Your fans will enjoy the more competitive games more than the weaker in-state teams you guys have been playing. How much more excited are you guys to play USC vs. some scrub team? If you beat USC at USC, you guys will get props and only trolls will talk about USC being down due to all of the players they lost to the NFL last year.
You guys get another crack at USC next year and I'm sure you are all drooling to watch that game too. Tougher games are just more fun and that's why we watch and play sports. It sounds like you guys do have tougher OOC competition coming up and I think it will only help your program. Beating up weak in-state teams really isn't that much fun to watch.
Your fans will enjoy the more competitive games more than the weaker in-state teams you guys have been playing. How much more excited are you guys to play USC vs. some scrub team? If you beat USC at USC, you guys will get props and only trolls will talk about USC being down due to all of the players they lost to the NFL last year.
You guys get another crack at USC next year and I'm sure you are all drooling to watch that game too. Tougher games are just more fun and that's why we watch and play sports. It sounds like you guys do have tougher OOC competition coming up and I think it will only help your program. Beating up weak in-state teams really isn't that much fun to watch.
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CleveBucks
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Dryden;1231852; said:
9 Big Ten games for 11 Big Ten teams = 49 games plus a team playing themselves. Not possible.
It's getting more difficult to schedule a borderline top 25 without giving up a return date. Sure, you could schedule two home/away series at a time, with home games in opposite years, but that gives you 7 home game every year. Not sure OSU could get by anymore without an 8th home game at least some of the time.
Did Oregon State get a return date with PSU this year? That would be a decent team to play as a second game matched with a top 10 team. Pretty sure TCU is on the schedule in a few years. Even Syracuse wanted a 1:1 deal which was cancelled recently.
Between matching open dates and ironing out the demands that other schools would have, sometimes it's not so easy to get the midlevel teams.
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