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One Gargantuan ND Outhouse of a Thread (MERGED)

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LloydSev said:
Schools in the Big10 get more than $1M a year in conference kickbacks.. way more..

The money is divided equally.. $14 million for a BCS bowl.. plus all the money from the other bowls... $4.5 if a second team goes to a BCS bowl..
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Take from the top of that all the expenses incurred getting a team + staff + band + assorted others into town / hotels / etc.
The gross you quote is correct, for BCS bowls. The net is substantially less - and of course you have dilution through distribution.

What irks me about the proposed BCs-ND arrangement is that ND will accept a hand-out in years when they cannot even sniff a BCS venue. They still get their healthy income from the NBC TV-deal, and - should they go to a non-BCS bowl in that same year they keep whatever other income that game provides over expenses for that non-BCS bowl game.

Frankly it sounds like some love of money is at play in South Bend, IN. There is a biblical quote concerning that I believe, one with which ND's president may wish to (re)-acquaint his Athletic Dept.
 
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I have said before that I have compared SOS ranking and ND was at 5 and the average BIG10 schedule was a 33! And I did respond to GRAD21 about it. Heck it is easy to make a BIG1O schedule look difficult but the average BIG10 schedule does no stack up that way....

27 LOL! Well chances are when those schedules were made Wash , Syracuse and BYU were all pretty darn good. And if you consider Purdue and Pitt a cake walk well you are a moron. And what makes you an expert on how good Pitt was !

Remember OSU lost to Purdue last year and Pitt ws much better than MSU.
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
27 LOL! Well chances are when those schedules were made Wash , Syracuse and BYU were all pretty darn good. And if you consider Purdue and Pitt a cake walk well you are a moron. And what makes you an expert on how good Pitt was !

Remember OSU lost to Purdue last year and Pitt ws much better than MSU.
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You must have missed the part where I said I didn't want any ND bullshit.


  • Regardless of when the schedules were made, THIS SCHEDULE IS WEAK.
  • Purdue is a cake walk because they lost their 2 best players at least. I don't know who else they lost, but losing Orton and Stubblefield will hurt them.
  • Pitt is a cake walk because every Big East team is a cake walk. If you are looking to Pitt to hold up your precious SoS then you should know it's a damn weak schedule.
  • I watched Pitt play. They aren't BCS calibre. They aren't good.
  • Yes, OSU lost to Purdue. That has what to do with ND's weak ass schedule?
  • Pitt wasn't a better team than MSU last year. Regardless of that, we aren't talking about last year. We are talking about ND's weak ass schedule this year.
Seriously, are you going to try to continue arguing this point?
 
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Who the heck cares what the average big10 schedule is like? There are a bunch of teams in a conference that can't compete with the elite teams in the nation and so they have to schedule patsies for their OOC schedule. Northwestern, Illinois, Indiana and others can't handle Texas and so their average schedule is going to be pretty crappy.

We're not talking about your past seasons. We're talking about your current one. What say you about this season?
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Wait a minute 27 you are right Purdue was a patsy when OSU played them and lost as they were playing the back-up QB!
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They definitely aren't a great team by any means, NDC. However, playing a passing team is tough to do when you have 4 of 5 starting DBs on the sidelines injured. And they beat us with their starting QB, without him they continue their trend of not scoring at all in the 2nd half.

Again, please explain how your schedule is strong.
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
The funny thing about all this is that ND fans know we stunk last year while you guys thought you were good! THATS JUST HILLARIOUS...
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Notre Dame, 6-6, unranked, blowout losses in final two games (including bowl game) = Stunk
Ohio State, 8-4, Top 20 ranking, blowout wins in final two games (including bowl game) = Good
 
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To quote the guy sitting in the bleachers in the movie Major League, "Who gives a shit, it's gone". Last year is last year. Notre Dame seems to play a schedule where every team is well known, but only a handful are worth anything......ie Syracuse, Washington (although Tyrone Willingham may have something so say about this one), Stanford.

Talking about the strength of a future schedule is like pissing in the wind. One thing is guaranteed about ND's schedule next year, USC will be very tough. Hell, I can't even guarantee that Michigan be will at the time you play them next season. They will pretty much be breaking in a new defense. OSU gets a lot of these good Big Ten teams late in the season, where they are much much better than they are when the domers play them.

I started this thread talking about Brady Quinn. He is not a legit heisman contender, that is plainly a joke. He has done nothing to prove that he deserves any mention, except play for the Domers, who by the way have sucked for the last decade or two. The Irish will probably start out good next season, beating some Big Ten teams who will be breaking in some new players, but then get buzz sawed by USC and Tennecheat. That will ultimately lead to yet another off season of the irish faithful scratching their heads, and ND Chief here next year pre-emptively stating that their schedule is tough in 2006. You see the cycle were in here.....
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Wait a minute 27 you are right Purdue was a patsy when OSU played them and lost as they were playing the back-up QB!
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We were actually tied with Purdue before Kyle Orton came back into the game, so we didn't lose against their back-up QB, we lost on an 80 yard drive orchestrated my starting QN Kyle Orton late in the 4th quarter to put them up by 7.
 
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I would hope you're hanging your hat on their 2004 rating, because there isn't an intelligent analyst in the midwest who would say ND can hold OSU's jock this year.
 
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