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I agree with all except for this. As long as that person sitting next to you, who would like to see you swinging from a tree, doesn't act out on that desire then it's nothing more than knowing you happen to be sitting next to an ignorant dipshit. When you start expelling people solely on what they believe and/or want, then that's just as discriminatory.But should you really have to sit next to someone in class, that you know would like to see you hanging from a tree?
Is this an easy line to draw? What's acceptable and not racist, and what is unacceptable and racist? Not really. Lots of gray areas. But I do think that a group that is chanting nasty names, and that states "you're not getting in, we will lynch you before you do!!" clearly crosses that line. No doubt about it. It's unacceptable and racist.
Unfortunately, not any more apparently...People are allowed to have unpopular, even vulgar, reprehensible opinions. That's what is supposed to be what makes this country so great, right? We're constitutionally allowed to be assholes to each other. As long as they don't act on it; or directly threaten a specific person ...
They didn't spew their vile shit at a fucking Chuck E. Cheese...they did it in their own environment and it was being recorded without their knowing about it until it was too late. Not justifying it, but to equate doing heinous shit in the privacy of your fraternity and doing the same in a public place full of kids is what's preposterous. If an institution can throw expel you for saying and certain group of people is subhuman or whatever, what's to say they can't expel you for criticizing some booster of the university? As long as speech doesn't incite violence or disorder or cause danger to anyone, then it's free speech...period.This idea that freedom of speech protects you from any retaliation from any entity is preposterous. This country is still great. Partly because you can be a racist dickhole without going to jail or being lined up against a wall and shot. Not because your racism should be tolerated at a fucking Chuck E. Cheese.
Free speech? Are they in prison? Are they dead? No? Then their free speech hasn't been compromised. Period.
I'd be flipping out if they were arrested. They weren't. They were kicked out of school. That makes me happy. It's also probably good for them. It saves them from a well deserved ass whoopin.
Kyle's right. Free speech does not mean speech without consequence.
in that limited scope yes, but you also aren't allowed to discriminate against people who have unpopular opinions.
How many of those Westboro baptist scumbags were fired from jobs and kicked out of college over their reprehensible speech/actions?
Whole different set of rules apply here. A few years back a kid at St. X had a pie thrown into the face of a teacher, was expelled, parents fought it. Judge threw the case out because a private school can set their own rules. Note the resistance to accepting vouchers by most Catholic schools because they come at the price of adherence to state and federal mandates.Well the other side of that coin is how can a school decide who to let in and who to let out based on what they believe?
What if some private school kicked kids out for believing in a different religion?
You don't want to go down the slippery slope of thought police and that is what most people fear when they see the way racists are ostracized today. Yes, their opinion is distasteful but what happens when the soccer mom/PC mob turns it's sights on some belief you may have?