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Oklahoma dismisses QB Bomar/NCAA probation

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Beloved by Sooner Fans, new #1 QB Paul Thompson in last season home opening loss to TCU
 
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Something that sounds shaky to me is that the new owners apparently said they don't have the employment records from prior to their buying the business in April.

What the hell's up with that? Has anybody here ever been through a corporate sale where the new owners didn't take possession of the personnel and tax records?
 
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Stoops: Bomar knowingly broke rules

Posted: Thursday August 3, 2006 6:05PM; Updated: Thursday August 3, 2006 6:14PM

NORMAN, Okla. (AP) -- Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops said Thursday that the school acted quickly when it found out that starting quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn broke NCAA rules through their employment at a car dealership.

Stoops said he had not been aware that Bomar and Quinn were working at the dealership last fall until Oklahoma's compliance staff investigated the situation. The coach said he didn't rush to a decision but considered it "fairly cut and dry."

Stoops said the players, who were dismissed from the team Wednesday, "knowingly" broke the rules.

"Both parties were aware that their actions were in violation of NCAA rules. They did it over a long and extended period of time," Stoops said. "That's conduct that we won't tolerate here at the University of Oklahoma."

Bomar set an Oklahoma freshman record with 2,018 passing yards last season after taking over as the starter in Week 2. Quinn, Bomar's roommate, was expected to compete for a starting spot after making four starts last season at right guard.

Stoops said players and the businesses that employ them are expected to turn in documentation of the employment.

"If people are going to, in their own choice, do something knowingly against NCAA rules, they're not going to tell you about it," Stoops said. "Once we knew or had any inkling of it, we acted on it and our compliance staff got to the end of it."

Stoops said he wasn't sure what Oklahoma could do differently to prevent similar problems in the future.

"In the end, again if somebody understands the rules and knowingly breaks them, then everybody suffers the consequences of it and they do for sure. In the end, players need to be accountable.

"We can't spend every minute with them, our compliance staff cannot spend every minute with them. When are they held accountable?"

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Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops (left) said his quarterback Rhett Bomar (right) fully knew he was breaking the rules.
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Something that sounds shaky to me is that the new owners apparently said they don't have the employment records from prior to their buying the business in April.

What the hell's up with that? Has anybody here ever been through a corporate sale where the new owners didn't take possession of the personnel and tax records?
In a word, no. (Especially odd with the sale taking place in mid year).

Stoops said he wasn't sure what Oklahoma could do differently to prevent similar problems in the future.
Say no to Big Red Motors. That too difficult a notion?

Seems the sooner fans are back on form - here is something that gets to the "head" of the problem with Bomar
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Articles Summarizing the Presser - OU's Website

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NORMAN, Okla. -- Oklahoma head coach Bob Stoops and Director of Athletics Joe Castiglione met with the media Thursday afternoon in Norman.
The following is a transcript of the press conference:
OU Head Coach Bob Stoops
"(This is a) little earlier press conference than we were anticipating, but this program will move forward. I will address the issue; I figured we need to get that behind us.

"I will address it today, but we’ll address it no longer after today -- I only visit about players that are here.



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"So, in the end we had a couple of football players who knowingly broke NCAA (rules). In fact, all parties were aware that their actions were violations of NCAA rules. They did it over a long and extend period of time.

"That is conduct that we will not tolerate here at the University of Oklahoma and our championship tradition. We are held to a high standard here at the University of Oklahoma, we expect our players to conduct themselves that way. You know NCAA rules and you abide by them.
"This was a situation that is regrettable, but again we cannot compromise our principles here at the University or on our football team and we are going to continue to pursue championships.
"This changes things to some degree, but again, it is a cut and dry issue. If you knowingly and intentionally and premeditatedly break NCAA (rules) then you cannot be a part of this football team or a member of this university. That, in the end, was the factor that entered into our decision.”
On naming Paul Thompson the starting quarterback...
“Now moving forward, after talking to Paul Thompson, we are excited to have Paul regain the reigns at quarterback.

"We realize for the last four years he has been our backup quarterback. he only time he has not been quarterback was 15 practices last spring. Even last year, if there was anything that happened, we were going with Paul. He still worked at quarterback even though he was part-time.
"That being the case, we’re excited about it. I hope the people, our fans, will really embrace the courage of Paul. Here is a guy who has really been the ultimate team guy and sacrificed a lot for this team. He has shown tremendous courage because of the scrutiny he’ll be under with the whole country watching him.”
On talking to Paul Thompson about the opportunity...
“I called Paul in my and office and told him the situation. I asked him if he would be willing to move back to quarterback, but told him I wanted him to go home, think about it, talk it over with his parents because I wanted his heart to be in it or it isn’t going to work.

"He thought about it came back and said, ‘Coach, I’m your guy.’ That takes a lot of courage, a lot of guts because of the magnitude of it all and the pressure he is under. That is the kind of guy he is. He is a special young guy that we have coached here.
"That being said, there is no question our players are excited about it. They’ve got great confidence in Paul, we do as a staff and we’re looking forward to the future with him.”
On the team...
“We had a great day yesterday. I know everybody thinks that everything is doom and gloom.

"As coaches, you play the cards you’re dealt and that’s what we’ll do. I came to peace with it really quickly because it is fairly cut and dry.
"I am excited about the potential here, not only with Paul, but with this whole team. Our players yesterday really took to it and understood. We had karaoke during team dinner and the guys were hysterical. Young people are incredibly resilient and these guys are ready to go
"We had a really strong testing day today and the guys had a lot of enthusiasm while they did it. They are anxious to get out on the field and we’ll push forward.
"I have said it forever; this program is about much more than any one individual. This is a great program with a long tradition and a great university. We will move on and battle our way through this.”
How long did it take to make your decision?
You don’t rush into any decision but once you understand all of the facts, then you act on them. To me everything was pretty cut and dry. It didn’t take long.

How do you decide if the policies in place should be fixed or these are growing people that can make their own decisions?
"If somebody understands the rules and knowingly breaks them, then everybody suffers the consequences of it.

"In the end, the players need to be accountable. We can’t spend every minute with them. Our compliance staff cannot spend every minute with them. When are they held accountable? In the end, ultimately they are.
"These guys are 19-20 years old, they knowingly did something over a period of time, they are plenty old enough that they understand the rules. They understand what’s right and wrong."
What do you do to educate your players to prevent this from happening?
"It is our first seminar of the year every year in a closed meeting. The compliance staff comes over and they review all of the NCAA rules and regulations from top to bottom.

"Main points, but also we specifically walk through every point with them and what it means and what does an extra benefit mean. Anything from a free lunch to a free drink to a free dinner to working or claiming hours you did not work or being over paid for hours you didn’t work.
"It is their responsibility to know where they are at and we talk about that. The compliance staff talks about it and I get up and reiterate it and sometimes in different terms and words that I think our players are used to hearing, in a way that I feel they can understand it better. It is talked about many times. All of our players understand it.

Director of Athletics Joe Castiglione
"Good afternoon. I wanted to come over here and be here during Coach Stoops’ remarks. I think it is important to be here and try to be as informative as I can, regarding process and to the extent of where we are right now, and what we might complete to conclude the situation.

"I do want to express my great appreciation and commend Coach Stoops for the way he has addressed this situation and handled it decisively and as appropriately as he has. For us it’s always been not just the adversity we face but how we collectively face that adversity.

"In this cause I really appreciate how he (Coach Stoops) has handled it, and the actions he has taken.

On the timetable of the situation...
"This process has been going on through the summer. I won’t get into specific days and times. When the issue developed where we might have some concern, there was more information being gathered. Then once we confirmed the concern, we acted swiftly and decisively within about a 24-hour period.

"We not only informed the NCAA, the individuals, but also you, the media, in that period of time.

On preventing these types of situations...
"First, the process starts with education.Whether we are involved in assisting in finding employment or they find it on their own, they are supposed to report to us where an engagement of employment.

"Then there are forms that they complete and there are monitoring systems in place to check the employment. Then through the monitoring, if there is some reason or issue to detect, then action takes place in an appropriate way.

"There are obviously opportunities for people to operate without or beyond the boundaries that we have in place. Even with constant education and reinforcement, they decide to act on their own. It may be difficult if not impossible to find it.

"Sometimes we may find something that looks a little odd, and if there is that case then we pursue it to find out whether or not there is reason for concern.

On the status with the NCAA...
"As soon as we knew we had a situation and it was confirmed as I mentioned earlier, we informed the NCAA.

"We took swift and decisive action. We took it based on the information that we had and what we knew. But there is still some amount of preparation that has to go into completing the report, and that’s why it would be unwise to get into date, times, all the other details that I understand you would want to ask. But until that report is complete it is really not wise for us to do that.

"However, as you know, when the process is complete it is available for those of you who are interested through the public information act.

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Articles Summarizing the Presser - Sporting News

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OU prepares to send report to NCAA
August 3, 2006
Associated Press

OKLAHOMA CITY -- A report on what the University of Oklahoma has said were NCAA violations committed by two since-dismissed football players will be sent to the NCAA when it is complete, OU athletic director Joe Castiglione said Thursday.
Castiglione, speaking at a press conference in Norman, declined to delve into specifics regarding the case of starting quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn, who were kicked off the Sooners' squad Wednesday. But Castiglione and football coach Bob Stoops praised the university's compliance staff for its diligence in uncovering the violations and said they expected the NCAA to look into the situation as well.
"I think always there's follow-up, but I feel our compliance staff has done that and continues to do it and never stops doing that," Stoops said. "I believe that this (the two dismissals) will be it, but everything is ongoing."
NCAA spokesman Erik Christianson declined to specifically address the Oklahoma situation, which he said is standard procedure in such cases.
But in general terms, he said anytime an NCAA member uncovers a violation, the violation must be reported to the NCAA. After that is done, NCAA staff decides whether or not to investigate further and issue a notice of findings.
If the NCAA staff investigates and finds that violations have occurred, the case would go to the NCAA's Committee on Infractions, which would determine if the violations merited any harsher penalty than any already self-imposed by the school.
Castiglione said "we feel like we're taking the appropriate action" and that "to the extent that we can address everything within our control, we're doing it ethically, decisively and as expeditiously as possible."
Oklahoma already is on NCAA probation until May 2008 for violations found to have occurred within its men's basketball program, but the university escaped major sanctions in that case. Christianson said the NCAA has a "repeat violator" bylaw.
The university has said Bomar and Quinn received extra compensation above that to which they were entitled related to their employment at a private business, a Norman car dealership that has changed ownership since the players worked there.
The university said the players accepted payment over an extended period of time in excess of time actually worked. Oklahoma declared them ineligible for the entire current season and permanently dismissed the two from the team.
Castiglione said the question about Oklahoma, which finished 8-4 last season, possibly forfeiting those wins has been raised, but that he's "not sure that is applicable at this point."
In a similar situation, Texas A&M was placed on five years' probation in January 1994 because nine players accepted pay for no work, a penalty that kept a team with a 10-0-1 record that year out of the Cotton Bowl, the game in which the champion of the now-defunct Southwest Conference used to play.
Texas A&M also dismissed two of the players and declared the others ineligible, suspended them, or both.
With about a month before the season starts in earnest, the eligibility status of Bomar and Quinn -- who both were to be sophomores this season -- remains in limbo.
Christianson said that if a player is declared ineligible at an NCAA school, "that ineligibility follows them wherever they would transfer, regardless of the (NCAA) classification" of the school to which they transfer. For a player who is ineligible to regain eligibility, the school to which he transfers would have to seek reinstatement for the player, Christianson said. That process usually takes months.
A transfer to an NAIA school might be an option. But Israel Negron, the director of legislative services for the Olathe, Kan.-based organization of mostly small schools, said "there would be a whole series of questions we'd have to get answers to," including what penalties already have been imposed on the players, before any determination of their eligibility to play for an NAIA school could be made.
"We don't want to be the place you go when you have no other choice," Negron said. "That's not what we're here for."
Because they're both sophomores, Bomar and Quinn could conceivably spend a year at a junior college, most of which compete under the auspices of the Colorado Springs, Colo.-based National Junior College Athletic Association. But they'd only be able to play one year of juco football before having to transfer to a four-year school.
It's unlikely, although not impossible, that the players would be able to play this season.
Stoops said he'd help Bomar and Quinn look for other football homes.
"I'm all for kids and feel in a way compassion for them," Stoops said. "I know they've stung us in a big way, but still it's just my nature to be that way. I think all coaches are that way. I would grant them a release and give them an opportunity if they wanted to go somewhere else."
 
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Wow. This has the potential to be SMU-esque, as someone else already stated. I don't think the NCAA will ever hand out another death penalty, and this may not be worthy of such a thing when the investigation is done. But as of right now, Stoops is certainly insanely uncomfortable. It appears there is not enough sand in Iraq to cover this mess up completely.

Someone is going to get a big kick in the crotch from the NCAA on this, and unfortunately, I think its going to be the loyal fans and season ticket holders.
 
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The kids in question were interviewed by an OK TV station.

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EDIT: From Rhett's "MySpace" page

<table align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="3" width="300"><tbody><tr id="Education:Row"><td align="left" bgcolor="#b1d0f0" valign="top" width="100">Education:</td><td id="ProfileEducation:" style="" bgcolor="#d5e8fb" width="175">In college</td></tr><tr id="Income:Row"><td align="left" bgcolor="#b1d0f0" valign="top" width="100">Income:</td><td id="ProfileIncome:" style="" bgcolor="#d5e8fb" width="175">$250,000 and Higher</td></tr></tbody></table>

Define Irony.
 
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