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Anyone know what effect playing a team from out of state has on the computer polls? Colerain seems to be pretty low considering their only loss is to the #1 team in the state. Is the win over Tyler Lee not as heavily weighted as a win over an Ohio team?
 
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coxew said:
Anyone know what effect playing a team from out of state has on the computer polls? Colerain seems to be pretty low considering their only loss is to the #1 team in the state. Is the win over Tyler Lee not as heavily weighted as a win over an Ohio team?
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I don't think it's any less weighted, but what hurts Colerain is that Lee lost their last 3 games.

It also hurts them that alot of the teams they've waxed have losing records. They better hope Lakota keeps winning.

This site is better than the OHSAA site. He updates the computer points as soon as the Sat. games are over. It also gives more info on possible points if they win out and other info.

joeeitel.com
 
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Brutus1 said:
This site is better than the OHSAA site. He updates the computer points as soon as the Sat. games are over. It also gives more info on possible points if they win out and other info.

joeeitel.com
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actually that is not better, the Ohsaa.org site is better because it is official, those rankings may be better looking and faster to get, but they aren't the official one's, so they don't mean squat, but nice site none the less
 
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how many teams are in a region? Why don't they decide this on the field?
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depends, it ranges from 28-33 teams, it just depends how many teams are in a certain area of ohio and that are also in the same division

wierd thing with that though, we have two teams from Youngstown in our region?


and the playoffs total 192 with 32 teams making it in each division
 
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oh and how many rounds are there in the playoffs? really just curious. I thought that texas ran things poorly but this sounds like a clusterfuck
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well seeing that each team plays 10 games and if they totally unefeated they would be 15-0, so 5 rounds


the system actually works good, better than the system that i saw in Friday Night Lights where they flipped a coin(?) in the event of a tie

it has its problems, like last year my team Columbus Beechcroft went 9-1 and didn't make it, but a team that went 6-4 did knocked us out of the playoffs and made it


by far its better than the BCS, the same system has been used for over 30 years now(its been changed over the years, but it has the same point)


you see it just doesn't factor who we beat and who we lose to, it goes in a big cycle and factors in the teams that they win and lose to and so on, and it doesn't factor in points won by/loss by, so it doesn't matter if yoo win by 1, 10, or 100, they all count as a win

the system in my mind works great
 
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the system actually works good, better than the system that i saw in Friday Night Lights where they flipped a coin(?) in the event of a tie
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They haven't flipped a coin since the 80's. In texas we have districts made up of 6 or 7 teams.You play all of them every year and the top three make the playoffs. the district champs and then the next two. in the event that two teams have the same district record then head to head matchups come into play. Then there are two playoffs D1 and D2, D1 for our purposes is for the school with the largest enrollment of the 3 playoff qualifiers. D2 is for the other two. you then play a Area championship, regional championship, state semi's and statefinals. In D2 there is a Bi-district game. So in the end the D1 champ would be 14-0 and the D2 champ would be 15-0 if they were undefeated. Its not perfect by any stretch but at least it is settled on the field
 
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They haven't flipped a coin since the 80's. In texas we have districts made up of 6 or 7 teams.You play all of them every year and the top three make the playoffs. the district champs and then the next two. in the event that two teams have the same district record then head to head matchups come into play. Then there are two playoffs D1 and D2, D1 for our purposes is for the school with the largest enrollment of the 3 playoff qualifiers. D2 is for the other two. you then play a Area championship, regional championship, state semi's and statefinals. In D2 there is a Bi-district game. So in the end the D1 champ would be 14-0 and the D2 champ would be 15-0 if they were undefeated. Its not perfect by any stretch but at least it is settled on the field
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our system is also settled on the field, you see ohio has so many school districts and "leagues/conferences" that using the system you mentioned would be impossible in ohio, nothing against your system, it sounds great but just wouldn't work in ohio

although once the teams get to the playoffs, its basically the same as the texas, where as you have "districts" we have "regions" and once you win your "region/district" you face one of the other 4 region champs and after you win that, you are face the team other team that beat the other region team, this is getting confusing to explain like this, let me try something

this is just a example

4 regions in each division
8 teams in each region

First Round-Region Games

team 1 plays team 8=say team 8 wins
team 2 plays team 7=say team 2 wins
team 3 plays team 6=say team 3 wins
team 4 plays team 5=say team 4 wins

so teams 2,3,4 and 8 advance to the next round in this region

Second round-Second Region games
team 2 plays team 8=say team 8 wins
team 3 plays team 4=say team 4 wins

Third Round-Region Final Game

team 4 plays team 8=say team 8 wins


alright, lets say that same process happened in the other 3 regions

Forth Round-Semi Final Games(i'm going to identify Regions 1,2,3 and 4 with the letters a,b,c, and d respectbily

team 8a plays team 8d=say team 8a wins(they advance to the State Championship Game)

team 8b plays team 8c=say team 8c wins(they also advance to the State Championship game)

Fifth Round-State Championship Game

team 8a plays team 8c-say team 8c wins

in this situation Team 8c would now be State champions, of their division
 
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plus in our playoff system, there is a point where if all other tie breakers have been used, they do flip a coin, this from what i know has never happened, and probably never since there is many, many other measures that are used before that coin flip
 
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