Game Thread Ohio State vs TCU (Arlington, TX) - 09/15/18, 8:00PM (ABC)

[buchtelgrad04]

Ummm.. Just checked the TCU front 7 height and weight.

DE- 6'4 249
DT- 6'2" 290
DT- 6' 294
DE- 6'2" 235
LB- 6'2 206
LB-6'2 212
LB- 6'1 220

Uh.... that's small. Thats the smallest front I can recall playing against. Holy shit. How will they manage against 6'6 315 average of an OL? They'll obviously be very quick so pass pro is key off the edges but boy can we lean on this team.

Virginia Tech

Defensive end Ht. Wt.
90 Dadi Nicolas 6-4 231.
Defensive tackle Ht. Wt.
96 Corey Marshall 6-2 262
Defensive tackle Ht. Wt.
92 Luther Maddy 6-1 293
Defensive end Ht. Wt.
4 Ken Ekanem 6-3 249


Linebacker Ht. Wt.
36 Chase Williams 6-2 215
Linebacker Ht. Wt
40 Deon Clarke 6-2 213
Linebacker Ht. Wt.
37 Ronny Vandyke 6-4 219

 

[bukIpower]

Virginia Tech

Defensive end Ht. Wt.
90 Dadi Nicolas 6-4 231.
Defensive tackle Ht. Wt.
96 Corey Marshall 6-2 262
Defensive tackle Ht. Wt.
92 Luther Maddy 6-1 293
Defensive end Ht. Wt.
4 Ken Ekanem 6-3 249


Linebacker Ht. Wt.
36 Chase Williams 6-2 215
Linebacker Ht. Wt
40 Deon Clarke 6-2 213
Linebacker Ht. Wt.
37 Ronny Vandyke 6-4 219

That's great and all... that said this offense is miles ahead where that group was early in 2014.

I'll admit that unless TCU has some sort of gimmick how do they expect to get any kind of push consistently against 6'6 300+?

Like Jwin just said the size will look kind of silly when we get lined up. I have no doubt the quickness from their front could create some issues but this could leave a mark on TCU if we just lineup and pound it.

Particularly late in the game.

 

[Jaxbuck]

That's great and all... that said this offense is miles ahead where that group was early in 2014.

I'll admit that unless TCU has some sort of gimmick how do they expect to get any kind of push consistently against 6'6 300+?

Like Jwin just said the size will look kind of silly when we get lined up. I have no doubt the quickness from their front could create some issues but this could leave a mark on TCU if we just lineup and pound it.

Particularly late in the game.

If big > quick the the Big Ten would have never lost a Rose Bowl.

Big guys have to be quick enough to handle smaller DL shooting gaps. I believe the current OSU OL is the right blend of size and athleticism to do the job but we are about to find out.

 

[Buckeyebred97]

That's great and all... that said this offense is miles ahead where that group was early in 2014.

I'll admit that unless TCU has some sort of gimmick how do they expect to get any kind of push consistently against 6'6 300+?

Like Jwin just said the size will look kind of silly when we get lined up. I have no doubt the quickness from their front could create some issues but this could leave a mark on TCU if we just lineup and pound it.

Particularly late in the game.

If they sell out to stop the run and make us beat them passing, some quick passes should back them off then start up the run game and just keep hitting em with Weber in the 2nd/3rd should be able to pull away if the line can play well. As mentioned I think the speed could be an issue but I think the line takes over the game as it goes on. I think the key here is Haskins playing well early and hitting the receivers and opening up the run game. If they do that I see a 45-20 win for the good guys.


Edit: Special teams needs to play well and not have any punt muffs and if we do have to punt I’m confident Chrisman can keep them pretty deep.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

To me the talent advantage along both lines is undeniable so big advantage OSU there.

Offensively, styles make the fight and unfortunately for TCU they have the wrong style to fight OSU. They run the spread, read option offense that is pretty much the standard today. OSU's defense is built for, and used to, that. The recipe for hurting OSU's defense is pro style and have a quick release, highly accurate QB who can hit TE's, RB's and quick slants to receivers while under pressure. That is NOT what the TCU kid brings to the table.

OSU offense vs TCU defense will come down to Dwayne Haskins vs the TCU DC in a contest of recognition vs disguise imo. TCU knows they have to rely on their quickness and confusing the young QB. No way they can just line up man for man. Similar to JT vs Bud Foster in 2014 imo. Let us pray for a better result (and I think there will be).

OSU has better players and more of them. It may take a little while but eventually that will prove out and the final score will not be all that close.

So both defenses will be playing against something similar to what they see in practice.

But the frogs will be facing a bigger offensive line and a quarterback who is ranked 4th in the country in pass efficiency (admittedly after facing two bad Power-5 teams).

The Buckeyes will be facing a smaller offensive line and a quarterback who is > 12 efficiency points shy of Top 50 after facing two bad non-Power-5 teams.

 

[Dye4Bucks]

I believe there are 3 possible outcomes to this game:
1. Least likely - Osu plays a terrible game, lose a low scoring game by 3-10 points and show they need UM for big games (L 17-10).
2. OSU shows just how talented they are and stuns everyone in the media, they win 38-7 or even something like 49-10.
3. Most likely - It's a good game until halftime but OSU pulls away in 3rd quarter 38-14 or 45-17.

 

[hiphopfroggy]

Howdy, horned frog here.

But did you check the listed weight of the Ohio st defensive line? cause there aren't any 300lb's starting there either. We lost our largest and best D lineman to injury so you guys majorly lucked out but still, your listed dline may be smaller than our backup Dline.

 

[buchtelgrad04]

That's great and all... that said this offense is miles ahead where that group was early in 2014.

I'll admit that unless TCU has some sort of gimmick how do they expect to get any kind of push consistently against 6'6 300+?

Like Jwin just said the size will look kind of silly when we get lined up. I have no doubt the quickness from their front could create some issues but this could leave a mark on TCU if we just lineup and pound it.

Particularly late in the game.

Maybe we can ask Stanford? Save for one run by Bryce Love, they pretty much dominated their OL.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

Howdy, horned frog here.

But did you check the listed weight of the Ohio st defensive line? cause there aren't any 300lb's starting there either. We lost our largest and best D lineman to injury so you guys majorly lucked out but still, your listed dline may be smaller than our backup Dline.

This is absolutely true. Our best tackle is under 290.

But Ohio State has had a fair few defensive tackles north of 300 that I would trade for Dre'Mont Jones in half a heartbeat.

Welcome to the board.

 

[Jaxbuck]

So both defenses will be playing against something similar to what they see in practice.

But the frogs will be facing a bigger offensive line and a quarterback who is ranked 4th in the country in pass efficiency (admittedly after facing two bad Power-5 teams).

The Buckeyes will be facing a smaller offensive line and a quarterback who is > 12 efficiency points shy of Top 50 after facing two bad non-Power-5 teams.

The OSU offense as a whole will be facing a whole different level of quick and athletic than they have seen from Rutgers or Oregon State

Now, not like they don't see plenty of freak athleticism in practice but that is just practice. There will have to be some acclimation to TCU's speed.

It has zero impact on the game but I think folks are getting a bit too cocky about the OL just because of the beating they have laid on two completely over matched opponents.

Heights and weights? How many hundreds of times in your football watching life have you see a massive OL struggle to block a smaller front 7?

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

If big > quick the the Big Ten would have never lost a Rose Bowl.

Big guys have to be quick enough to handle smaller DL shooting gaps. I believe the current OSU OL is the right blend of size and athleticism to do the job but we are about to find out.

Yeah I know think the whole size line of thinking is useless. Olines always outize the Dline. It’s not a useless metric.

I do think our oline seems like a solid unit so I am expecting good pass pro. Meanwhile I hope we open up run lanes a bit better this week-as you said, we will see.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Howdy, horned frog here.

But did you check the listed weight of the Ohio st defensive line? cause there aren't any 300lb's starting there either. We lost our largest and best D lineman to injury so you guys majorly lucked out but still, your listed dline may be smaller than our backup Dline.

very true

OSU has had an issue with recruiting pure run stuffing bigs but corrected it last year. Our big guys are freshmen or redshirt freshmen but have seen game action already and seem to live up to the billing thus far.

Dremont Jones and Robert Landers have played a lot of football at this level and can more than hold their own. Jones in particular passed up the NFL to come back for his SR year. He doesn't suck.

 

[bukIpower]

Howdy, horned frog here.

But did you check the listed weight of the Ohio st defensive line? cause there aren't any 300lb's starting there either. We lost our largest and best D lineman to injury so you guys majorly lucked out but still, your listed dline may be smaller than our backup Dline.

Your offensive line replaces 4 right? Also your defensive line doesnt have 3 probable first rounders on it either.

Also we have I believe all three LBs over 230.

Look I'm not saying automatically OSU will run all over TCU. I have no doubt TCUs quickness will give us fits but as its been pointed out our OL is an athletic group. My only point about the TCU front is that late in the game how will they hold up? Im sorry but two LBs under 210 isn't the greatest thing against an offense that wants to run the football.

TCU clearly is set up to defend the spread defenses of the big 12 but not too sure against a team that loves to run the ball like OSU.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Your offensive line replaces 4 right? Also your defensive line doesnt have 3 probable first rounders--including the possible #1 overall pick--on it either.

fify

 

[cjmik_75]

Virginia Tech

Defensive end Ht. Wt.
90 Dadi Nicolas 6-4 231./18 Jonathan Cooper 6-4 257 or Chase Young 6-5 265.
Defensive tackle Ht. Wt.
96 Corey Marshall 6-2 262./86 Dre’Mont Jones 6-4 286.
Defensive tackle Ht. Wt.
92 Luther Maddy 6-1 293./67 Robert Landers 6-1 288.
Defensive end Ht. Wt.
4 Ken Ekanem 6-3 249./97 Nick Bosa 6-4 263.


Linebacker Ht. Wt.
36 Chase Williams 6-2 215./20 Pete Werner 6-3 236.
Linebacker Ht. Wt
40 Deon Clarke 6-2 213./5 Barron Browning 6-4 238 or 32 Tuf Borland 6-1 230.
Linebacker Ht. Wt.
37 Ronny Vandyke 6-4 219./39 Malik Harrison 6-3 245.

TCU height and weight. OSU ht wt

DE- 6'4 249 97 Nick Bosa 6-4 263.
DT- 6'2" 290 86 Dre’Mont Jones 6-4 286.
DT- 6' 294 67 Robert Landers 6-1 288.
DE- 6'2" 235 18 Jonathan Cooper 6-4 257 or Chase Young 6-5 265.
LB- 6'2 206 20 Pete Werner 6-3 236.
LB-6'2 212 5 Barron Browning 6-4 238 or 32 Tuf Borland 6-1 230.
LB- 6'1 220 39 Malik Harrison 6-3 245.




DL Avg:
6' 2" 267 6' 3.5" 275.5 +1.5" +8.5
LB Avg:
6' 1.7" 212.7 6' 3.3" 239.7 +1.6" +27

Overall Avg:
6' 1.8" 243.7 6' 3.4" 260.1 +1.6" +16.4







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