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Game Thread Ohio State vs TCU (Arlington, TX) - 09/15/18, 8:00PM (ABC)

2. Special Teams. Mainly, punt return. Punt team is outstanding and Neurenberger is super steady. Just rush the punt every time and take it where it lands. The return game is terrifying and not for good reasons. No turnovers here and we're good.
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I honestly cant remember the last time I didn't cringe a bit when one of our guys went to field a punt.
 
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Love prime time football but hate waiting for it. What are you nerds doing to prepare for this one? Early morning hike around Wellesely Island with the fam (thousand islands, ny), hit a few distillery's around the area and get a good lunch buzz going. Preggers wife so have my DD. Then the usual, stop at Target for god knows what, Khols because the Khols cash must be used and maybe PetSmart..
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As long as we are back for the 330 slate of games and order pizza. Overall, a nice little Saturday.

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I honestly cant remember the last time I didn't cringe a bit when one of our guys went to field a punt.
Yes but when they put someone like boom Herron deep on a kick, we all scream bloody murder.

Even Teddy made us cringe, the difference was the other fan base was cringing much more.
 
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Yes but when they put someone like boom Herron deep on a kick, we all scream bloody murder.

Even Teddy made us cringe, the difference was the other fan base was cringing much more.
Saunders is the best option. Plays the ball well, has a good first move then runs north and south. Not electrifying but efficient and consistent. I'll take it
 
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I wouldn't call 2am prime time, but I'm on the overnight shift currently, so it works out the same. I'll be pre-gaming at a little thing called the largest wine festival in the world: http://allexciting.com/durkheims-wurstmarkt/
This year we go without the kids, so more wine and less whine on the slate.

Ditto. That 0200-0530 slot sucks. Hopefully things are slow Sunday because I’m going to need to catch a nap.

I was at the Würzberg wine festival a few weeks ago. Not nearly as big, but it was a ton of fun. Looking forward to coming back to Germany in the next couple of weeks.
 
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Good stuff.


TCU hasnt allowed a sack this year, and as the other frog pointed out Robinson still hasnt thrown a pick in 3 stars and just set the record for most pass attempts to start a TCU career w/out an interception. TCU of course being the school that invented the forward pass and has the award for best qb named after Davey O'Brien; basically, QBU so thats a positive for us.

Well, much like your big brother in Austin, TCU fans apparently manage to combine living in the past with delusions of relevance.
 
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Just remembered another interesting tidbit while rewatching the boys. Anyone notice how many people from Oregon State and Rutgers got injured during our games and how few we had? It doesnt mean that they are super human or anything stupid like that, but I really think it speaks a lot to conditioning and Coach Marotti's work.

There were a good dozen players from OrSU and Rutgers go out and several of those didnt come back in. Just food for though.
 
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Good stuff.


TCU hasnt allowed a sack this year, and as the other frog pointed out Robinson still hasnt thrown a pick in 3 stars and just set the record for most pass attempts to start a TCU career w/out an interception. TCU of course being the school that invented the forward pass and has the award for best qb named after Davey O'Brien; basically, QBU so thats a positive for us.

That means he's due....
 
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A Quick Look at the OSU-TCU series

Ohio State is one of the premiere programs in college football, with an overall record of 912-324-53 (.728 winning percentage, 3rd best in FBS) and 8 national championships that have been recognized by the NCAA (1942, 1954, 1957, 1961, 1968, 1970, 2002, and 2014).

Texas Christian is a program with a long but uneven history of success. TCU's overall record is 645-538-56 (.543 winning percentage, 58th best in FBS), with one recognized national championship (1938). TCU has experienced a renaissance in recent years, and the Horned Frogs own the 5th-best record in FBS since 2000 (172-52, .748 winning percentage). Ohio State has the 2nd-best record in FBS since 2000 (193-41, .825 winning percentage), with a pair of national championships (2002, 2014).

Ohio State and Texas Christian have faced each other six times prior to 2018, with Ohio State having a 4-1-1 advantage in those contests.

The two teams first met in the 1937 season opener. The game was in Columbus (as were each of the next five meetings between the teams) with 68,291 fans in attendance. TCU was led by quarterback Davey O'Brien, who in 1938 would win the Heisman Trophy and lead TCU to its lone national championship. However, the Buckeye defense, led by All American guard Gust Zarnas, stymied O'Brien in his first college start and shut out the Horned Frogs, 14-0. The shutout was the first of six pitched by Ohio State in 1937. In fact, the Buckeye defense surrendered scores in only two games all season, and both of those games resulted in losses. Ohio State ended 1937 with a record of 6-2-0 and the #13 spot in the final AP poll (there was no coaches poll back then), while TCU finished 4-4-2 and ranked #16 overall.

The teams met for a rematch two decades later in the 1957 season opener. Ohio State fielded a team with few stars (guard Aurealius Thomas was the only All American) and the Buckeyes began the season unranked. That lack of respect proved to be well-placed, as Ohio State lost to a mediocre Texas Christian squad, 18-14, due in large part to a 90-yard punt return by future Cleveland Brown Jim Shofner. However, Ohio State would go on to win its next nine games in a row, including the Rose Bowl, to cap a 9-1-0 season. Based on that strong finish, Ohio State won the UPI (coaches) and FWAA national championships (Auburn won the AP poll with a record of 10-0-0). TCU ended the 1957 season with a record of 5-4-1 (unranked).

Ohio State once again opened the 1961 season with TCU, and once again the Buckeyes failed to come away with a victory against an inferior opponent. Unlike 1957, Ohio State entered the contest with a loaded team led by All American (and soon-to-be Maxwell Award winner) fullback Bob Ferguson and halfback Paul Warfield, a future NFL legend. Despite 137 yards rushing from Ferguson, the Buckeyes managed to score only 7 points on the afternoon, and TCU tied the game with a 4th-quarter touchdown. The Buckeyes missed a 54-yard field goal as time expired, and the game ended in a 7-7 draw. Ohio State would go on to win its next eight games (including a 50-20 trouncing of Michigan) to finish at 8-0-1 and #2 in both the AP and coaches poll. However, the Buckeyes did earn the FWAA title in 1961, and the NCAA recognizes, and Ohio State claims, a national title for 1961. Meanwhile, TCU finished with a dismal 3-5-2 record for the season.

Ohio State ended the 1966 season with a rare losing record (4-5-0), but Texas Christian was even worse (2-8-0). As might be expected, the two lousy teams played a pretty lousy game, which Ohio State won by the final score of 14-7. Needless to say, neither team finished the season ranked.

After reaching a low point in 1966, the Buckeyes quickly rebounded to notch a perfect season and undisputed national championship with the Super Sophs in 1968. With a squad that was both young and proven, Ohio State entered the 1969 season as the clear #1 team in the country. Once again opening the season with TCU, the Buckeyes cruised to a 62-0 victory. All American fullback Jim Otis rushed for 121 yards and 2 scores, while fullback Jim Brockington (79 yards, 3 TDs) and quarterback Rex Kern (78 yards, 2 TDs) also found plenty of room to run against the Horned Frogs defense. The Buckeyes would pummel their next seven opponents before being upset by Michigan, 24-12, in the season finale. Ohio State would finish with a record of 8-1-0 and a top-5 ranking in both major polls (#4 AP, #5 coaches), while TCU would endure a mediocre 4-6-0 season in 1969.

Ohio State was simply loaded in 1973, with legends such as tailback Archie Griffin, offensive tackle John Hicks, linebacker Randy Gradishar, and defensive back Neal Colzie. TCU was not. Predictably, the Buckeyes won in lopsided fashion, 37-3. Archie Griffin led off the scoring with a career-long 68-yard TD run, and quarterback Cornelius Greene added a career-long 72-yard TD run in the second quarter. Ohio State blew away its first nine opponents by a combined score of 361 to 33 (with four shutouts) on route to a #1 ranking in both polls. In week 10, Ohio State tied Michigan, 10-10, which effectively ended both teams' national title aspirations. Ohio State beat Southern Cal in the Rose Bowl, 42-21, to finish #2 in the AP poll and #3 in the coaches poll. Texas Christian struggled to a 3-8 season.
 
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Looking over this matchup on paper, it seems we have the edge in most every category and should be no less than even otherwise (sans punt return):
- DL: OSU
- LB: Even
- DB: OSU
- OL: OSU
- QB: Even (only because both haven't had much time)
- RB: OSU
- WR: OSU
- TE: Even (cause apparently neither team knows the position exists)
- Punt: OSU
- Punt Return: TCU
- Kick Off & Kick Return: Even (not sure this matters now)
Ohio State had damn well better have the edge in most every category, considering how badly the Buckeyes out-recruit the Horned Frogs.

In the last four recruiting classes combined (2015-2018), Ohio State signed 98 recruits with a 247 Composite average ranking of 92.60, while Texas Christian signed 91 recruits with a 247 Composite average ranking of 86.58. That's a huge difference in talent.

During that 4-year period, OSU signed only 11 recruits who were lower-ranked that TCU's average recruit (and 3 of those signees were special teams players); and TCU signed only 7 recruits who were higher-ranked that OSU's average recruit.

In terms of recruiting classes:

2018: OSU #2 (94.29 average); TCU #25 (87.15 average)
2017: OSU #2 (94.59 average); TCU #28 (85.18 average)
2016: OSU #4 (91.56 average); TCU #21 (88.25 average)
2015: OSU #7 (90.31 average); TCU #39 (85.63 average)

On paper, this really shouldn't be very close. If it is close (or god forbid Ohio State loses), then I guess you'd have to blame the coaching.
 
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