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Ohio State vs. #12 North Carolina (in Atlanta), Saturday Dec. 20, 3pm EST, CBS

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buckeyemania11 said:
Oof 4+ years of allowed mediocrity and we wonder why the hoops program is what it is currently
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Buddy, we haven't won the Big Ten regular season in 13 years, and 12 years is how long it's been since we've seen a Sweet 16 appearance. The program fell from elite status a long time ago, let's not pretend like it's been hitting on all cylinders and only Diebler has let us down.
 
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DZ83CK said:
Buddy, we haven't won the Big Ten regular season in 13 years, and 12 years is how long it's been since we've seen a Sweet 16 appearance. The program fell from elite status a long time ago, let's not pretend like it's been hitting on all cylinders and only Diebler has let us down.
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Of course it carries over from Holtmann and the end of the Matta era. I'm not saying we should be competing for the national title but 3 years not making the tourney at all should get you axed.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
And if they don't make it? Were "expectations met" by missing the tournament once again? At some point you have to start actually winning the games not just keeping them close
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Anything short of a Final 4 won't satisfy some of you so the question is kind of pointless.

As for the "Deibler defenders", I'm just being honest about what I see. Some of you people can't even do that. The fanbase that ran Matta out of town and we're still paying back the karma for it.

I think he gets 4 full years like DZ does. He gets full recruiting cycle. If he gets fired you're just resetting the clock at a non-basketball school with delusional fans. It pays to be patient - that is, of course, unless you think the program's NIL issues are going to go away overnight and you want to hit the reset button again. I mean some people are only happy when there's something to bitch about...I guess....
 
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Mike80 said:
Anything short of a Final 4 won't satisfy some of you so the question is kind of pointless.

As for the "Deibler defenders", I'm just being honest about what I see. Some of you people can't even do that. The fanbase that ran Matta out of town and we're still paying back the karma for it.

I think he gets 4 full years like DZ does. He gets full recruiting cycle. If he gets fired you're just resetting the clock at a non-basketball school with delusional fans. It pays to be patient - that is, of course, unless you think the program's NIL issues are going to go away overnight and you want to hit the reset button again. I mean some people are only happy when there's something to bitch about...I guess....
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Go look back at my posts Ive never once claimed this should be a final 4 or even a sweet 16 team but once again missing the tournament is not acceptable. Ive already game to terms that he's getting a 3rd year but if he goes 0/3 on even making the tourney it's well beyond time to move on. The AD is just accepting stale mediocrity at that point if he's allowed to continue.
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
If we somehow could have preserved Mattas health, we might have finally got anther NC. Karma has owed us for that freaking long!
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Man I still have a hard time explaining what went wrong with Matta. He had it rolling, but stopped getting the dudes who had propelled the program to elite status (except for the 2014 class) and had a ton of top-100 recruit busts.
 
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When it comes to the NIL Issue I'd argue this is at least partially the Ads fault. When you make a lazy completely uninspiring hire of a assistant of the former completely failed coach do you really think people are gonna be lining up to give money?
 
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