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Ohio State vs. #12 North Carolina (in Atlanta), Saturday Dec. 20, 3pm EST, CBS

.500 in B1G play is a big uphill battle. They probably aren't beating any of the better teams and even the bottom of the conference is far from a sure win for this team.
Says you. I think the team that played against Illinois (top-10 team) and UNC (top 10 team) is in the top half of the Big Ten this year.

If you really believe they have zero hope for success, why do you bother to watch and comment? Do you like being miserable or something?
 
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Says you. I think the team that played against Illinois (top-10 team) and UNC (top 10 team) is in the top half of the Big Ten this year.

If you really believe they have zero hope for success, why do you bother to watch and comment? Do you like being miserable or something?

They also lost to a already bad Pitt team who was shorthanded and needed a comeback and 2 OTs to beat a not good WVU team.

Seems like they play up but not up enough to win against better teams but can and will play down to bad-mediocre power conference type teams
 
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They also lost to a already bad Pitt team who was shorthanded and needed a comeback and 2 OTs to beat a not good WVU team.

Seems like they play up but not up enough to win against better teams but can and will play down to bad-mediocre power conference type teams
So? They won the WVU, didn't they? And yeah the Pitt loss sucked, but please keep ignoring it took a miracle shot to win that for Pitt.

They are limited - this was always going to be a team with a ceiling. No one thought this was anything but a tournament team (maybe) this year and they had Sweet 16 delusions they are exactly that, delusional. In my IMO, as they've played some good teams and not so good teams, they look like a tournament team around the 9 or 10 seed range.

Who gives a fuck who they beat, just keep winning games and being in a position to actually win these game is absolutely a positive change for this program. Bitch about if you want (you will).

If they go .500 in the Big Ten they'll be in. Zero doubt in my mind.
 
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So? They won the WVU, didn't they? And yeah the Pitt loss sucked, but please keep ignoring it took a miracle shot to win that for Pitt.

They are limited - this was always going to be a team with a ceiling. No one thought this was anything but a tournament team (maybe) this year and they had Sweet 16 delusions they are exactly that, delusional. In my IMO, as they've played some good teams and not so good teams, they look like a tournament team around the 9 or 10 seed range.

Who gives a fuck who they beat, just keep winning games and being in a position to actually win these game is absolutely a positive change for this program. Bitch about if you want (you will).

If they go .500 in the Big Ten they'll be in. Zero doubt in my mind.

And if they don't make it? Were "expectations met" by missing the tournament once again? At some point you have to start actually winning the games not just keeping them close
 
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Honest question for the Diebler defenders. When should the line finally get drawn? Is he on the hot hot seat heading into year 3 if we don't make the tourney again this year? Or do you really think we should play the long slow game with this guy?
 
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