sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
The secret of Ohio State's success against Sparty.....
....MUSCLE MILK?
Pretty sure it’s actually tans.com.
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Pretty sure it’s actually tans.com.
That is my exact sentiment...looking at the game in a vacuum, there was a lot of ugly out there. But I just wanted to avoid another stinging loss to Sparty, as I have watched far too many. Lots of issues and very little time to get them fixed, but I kind of made peace with that reality after the Purdue game...or at the very least when we struggled to beat a fledgling Nebraska team. This is not a championship caliber team, but I will be damned if I can't enjoy a win against either team from the state up north, specifically one that has caused us so much angst in recent years.
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Hetuck
Assistant Coach
The freshman didn't fall on the ball like he was supposed to.
Bad snaps are going to happen (and Jordan's qualifications for Center are a topic for another discussion). But fans always love the backup QB, and the highly touted recruit with little experience. But the coaches are going to be worried that the freshman will do something like that desperate backwards pass that Adrian Martinez tried in the Nebraska game.
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buckeyesin07
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
Except this isn't the typical fans loving the backup QB situation. No one here is suggesting that Martell should supplant Haskins. What we have here is an offense that under Haskins has shown an ability of late to move the ball down the field, only to come to a grinding halt in the red zone. Martell, with his ability to run, can help in that aspect of the game.
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Telekinesis
Easily Amused by the Bitterly Disappointed
You’re right. Long live Tater. Hope he scores 8 TDs against that leaky boil to the north. With a couple through the air.
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Bingo. Even Joel Klatt mentioned during the broadcast that this isn't a change of quarterbacks but a situational thing. Opposing defense totally blow off Haskins in the read option and crash down on the RB...they can't do that with Martell lest they get burned.
During the game I complained that Martell didn't keep the ball on any of the read options. I now think the staff may be setting something up for The Game, where they'll allow Martell to keep the ball and run and even pass off the option...
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Greyshirt
All-American
This game went almost exactly as I had feared.
MSU special teams are brutal. The punt return team is a horrific. And the punter is literally a walk on after #1&2 both went down. Like they had open tryouts after school started.
OSU needs to get better. And more specifically in the trenches. They do not have an identity on offense. Haskins is not accurate enough to do the dink and dunk QB and the line is not getting near enough movement up front to have a strict drop back passer run a pro style offense.
I would agree that come Red Zone I would consider using that backup QB exclusively. It at the very least creates opportunities.
MSU special teams are brutal. The punt return team is a horrific. And the punter is literally a walk on after #1&2 both went down. Like they had open tryouts after school started.
OSU needs to get better. And more specifically in the trenches. They do not have an identity on offense. Haskins is not accurate enough to do the dink and dunk QB and the line is not getting near enough movement up front to have a strict drop back passer run a pro style offense.
I would agree that come Red Zone I would consider using that backup QB exclusively. It at the very least creates opportunities.
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buckeyesin07
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
I think the only time he kept the ball was when he took it for 5-6 yards down to the one foot line, on the drive that ended with Campbell's TD in the first half. I wondered if he wasn't keeping it more because Urban was afraid he'd take a big hit and get hurt.
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Greyshirt
All-American
LOL As a loyal Spartan fan after that end zone mess and then the fumble on the pitch I had to move on with my day. It was such a mess.
I think we all can agree that MSU has a top level Defense, a really bad offense (yes OSU D was good but lets be real), and the special teams at MSU are some of the worse in the B10. Literally our punt returners catch less than 50% of all punts. You have 1 effng job dude, catch the football. Probably would have saved MSU about 90 yards.
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dragurd
Head Coach
Um what? Haskins is exactly accurate enough to do the dink and dunk. It's what we did all season with the occasional explosive play cause Parris or Johnny etc are fast. Dink and dunk isn't the issue the issue is we try to dink and dunk and run so the teams stack everyone within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage and go. Ok beat us over the top and we only throw one or two deep shots against that a game. Now in their defended the oline has turned into a walking sieve so it's kinda hard to get time to beat them over the top but still.
The point being the dink and dunk isn't the problem with this team. It's we dink and dunk the whole time so if someone drops a pass or we run for 0 yards we get behind the chains.
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The one thing I didn't understand was taking Martell out after he took it to the 1-yard line. Why not run a hurry-up second play from the one instead of switching QBs back and letting the defense substitute knowing that the ball is now on the one?
I was glad to see the Martell running package used inside the red zone, but why not stick with it after getting to the 1-yard line? If the 3rd down play with Campbell hadn't gone for a TD, a lot of people would be asking that question.
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scarletngray
Gold Pants
We are seeing improvement in two key areas. Both in the run game. The rush D played stellar against MSU. Take away Lombardi's run and it was a complete beatdown. Simplifying things has allowed our LB's the ability to play to their strengths. All three starting LB'S graded out as champions. Booker and Hilliard also played well when they were in. The addition of White at Safety has also improved the rush D. If we can repeat this against Maryland we should be in good shape when we face TSUN.
Our running game has also seen improvement over the past couple weeks. It was exciting to see the OL pushing the Sparty DL around in the 4th Quarter. this was against the best rush D in CFB. Weber ran hard and got a lot of yards after contact in the 2nd half. Putting in Tate also made the Sparty D play honest because Tate is such a running threat. Again, if we continue to improve in the run game against the Turtles we should be in good shape when the skunkbears come into town. It will still be a huge challenge but I like our chances if we can stay healthy.
GO BUCKS!
Our running game has also seen improvement over the past couple weeks. It was exciting to see the OL pushing the Sparty DL around in the 4th Quarter. this was against the best rush D in CFB. Weber ran hard and got a lot of yards after contact in the 2nd half. Putting in Tate also made the Sparty D play honest because Tate is such a running threat. Again, if we continue to improve in the run game against the Turtles we should be in good shape when the skunkbears come into town. It will still be a huge challenge but I like our chances if we can stay healthy.
GO BUCKS!
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