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Ohio State Athletic Program Violations

Detailing Ohio State's minor violations, none of which raise any major issues
Doug Lesmerises, The Plain Dealer
November 16, 2012

COLUMBUS ? Ohio State's 27 secondary violations reported in the last five months included six involving the football program, but nothing that would raise alarm.

The request for the latest violations, committed or reported between mid-April and mid-September, was made by The Plain Dealer as a routine check. There was some overlap in what was released from the most recent previous request I made, which was for the 11-month period that ended if mid-April. I made the request of Ohio State on Sept. 19 and the violations were released a week ago.

Ohio State secondary violations

In my hour-long meeting with compliance officials this week for a larger story about the new hires that allow an increased focus on football, Doug Archie, the associate athletic director for compliance, repeated that self-reporting minor violations is part of the OSU culture, so secondary violations are expected.

But since Ohio State's NCAA issues, periodically asking for violations will continue to be a regular part of my coverage of the team. And if I have them, I may as well share them.

Ohio State did not have any violations in this period with either basketball team. Here were the six involving football.

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http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2012/11/detailing_ohio_states_minor_vi.html
 
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It's a violation of bylaw 17.1.6.2.4 (same one Michigan got busted for under Rich Rod) which states that off-season conditioning cannot include instruction of alignments or plays, and cannot include practice with any equipment related to the sport (there are exemptions for swimming, diving, and ice hockey). Essentially the rule is that conditioning periods are for conditioning, and not practice of sport-specific technique.

As for football, the no-equipment rule effectively includes any item that can be held or tossed with one hand to simulate hand-offs, throwing, or catching, such as mini-basketballs or a rolled up bath towel. I suppose they could get away with it if they want to toss 5-lb kettlebells around or something. Another silly example is that linemen can practice with individual resistance sleds (builds endurance), but they may not practice during the period with a seven-man blocking sled (teaches technique).
 
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Bill Lucas;2256600; said:
So the football team can use regulation sized basketballs? Or are football teams not allowed to train at all with basketballs, particularly in the offseason?

Stupid rules are stupid.
No, they have to use mini basketball players.

I think.

Maybe it's full size players. with mini balls?

I don't know... Dryden seems to have it right.
 
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Buckskin86;2256506; said:

So I wonder which Big Ten school or which school the person reported it is affliated with, roots for etc.? Really what was the guy supposed to do? Write on a piece of paper that I can't talk to you? The recruit initiated the contact not the other way around....Jeez...


And we knew there had been a minor recruiting violation involving an OSU assistant and a recruit. That had been mentioned previously by Gene Smith after that batch of violations was provided to The Plain Dealer. Now we know that involved Taver Johnson, who is now an assistant at Arkansas, and Cam Burrows, who has pledged to be a member of Ohio State's 2013 class. It happened on Dec. 7 last year and was discovered by the Big Ten, which told Ohio State on March 2. So someone must have told the Big Ten.
Johnson was visiting Burrows' coach at Trotwood-Madison and Burrows saw Johnson as he was leaving and said he wanted to come to an Ohio State practice. Johnson told Burrows to call the football office and stopped talking to him, but even that brief conversation was a secondary violation. The punishment was that Ohio State couldn't talk to Burrows for two weeks this July when the window opened for the Buckeyes to contact him.
 
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Football and basketball punishments differ drastically in Ohio State self-reported NCAA violations

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One football recruit and a group of three men’s basketball recruits went on their official visits to Ohio State and took trips to the set of College GameDay before the football team’s game against Oklahoma on Sept. 9.

Both parties walked onto the stage of College GameDay and met with former Ohio State quarterback and ESPN analyst Kirk Herbstreit, former Ohio State running back and celebrity guest picker Eddie George and two other ESPN analysts. The visits, it turns out, weren’t permitted, and Ohio State ended up self-reporting three NCAA violations for reach program.

But the Ohio State football program issued a much harsher self-imposed punishment from the university than the basketball program, despite the exact same violations occurring at the same location on the same day.

As part of its self-imposed punishment, the football program agreed to end its recruitment of former five-star defensive end and now-Penn State freshman Micah Parsons, who was declared ineligible to compete for Ohio State, while issuing a one-game suspension to the football recruiting assistant — Ed Terwilliger — who brought Parsons to the stage. The NCAA agreed with the action and decided no further action should be taken.

However, Ohio State did not give its men’s basketball program nearly as harsh of a punishment. In fact, it’s possible two of the prospects have already signed with the Buckeyes for next season.

The self-imposed punishments were not harsh enough for the NCAA, which added three additional sanctions including one that made the three recruits temporarily ineligible and required Ohio State to apply for reinstatement in order them to play for the Buckeyes.

Both Cleveland.com and 247Sports reported three basketball prospects visited Ohio State that weekend: Elijah Weaver, Luther Muhammad and Jaedon LeDee. Muhammad and Ledee have since signed letters of commitment with Ohio State and will join the program in the fall. The two were seen at St. John Arena that day and tweeted about their visits during that weekend.

LeDee committed on Sept. 19 while Muhammad joined him on Sept. 22. The violation was not reported until Nov. 16. Ohio State was unwilling to confirm whether Weaver, Muhammad and LeDee were the three prospects in the violation.

Despite committing the same NCAA infractions, the basketball program continued its recruitment of the three basketball players and did not suspend the staff member — director of player development Scoonie Penn — who allowed the prospects to walk onto the stage and set area.

Instead, the program was forbidden from returning to the set of any future College GameDay sets over the remainder of the 2017-18 school year and letters of education regarding the violation of the bylaws were sent to both the basketball program and the producers and analysts of GameDay, according to the report obtained by The Lantern.

As noted, the NCAA did not agree with Ohio State’s action and decided to impose three additional penalties, according to Ohio State’s compliance department.

It declared the three prospects ineligible, requiring Ohio State to apply for reinstatement for the student-athletes involved in the violation from the NCAA Student-Athlete Reinstatement staff. This specific sanction matches what Ohio State self-imposed in its punishment of the football program.

The NCAA also issued a reduction of “two recruiting person days” and forced Penn to sit out one game.

The Lantern reached out to the NCAA for comment about the current eligibility status of the basketball recruits, but did not receive a response in time for publication.

David Ridpath, an Ohio University professor and former compliance director at Marshall, said he expects the two players to be reinstated quickly and that the process is more of a formality than anything else. He cited his own personal experience, where at Marshall, the program self-reported a violation in the morning, had the player ineligible, contacted the NCAA and had the player reinstated before the end of the day.

“If it’s something very minor and I look at this as pretty innocuous with the basketball players, it can happen relatively quick,” Ridpath said. “But I’d be stunned if it’s not done in a little while, but certainly it would be done by the season and they don’t really have anything to worry about.”

The main difference between the punishment for the football program and that of the men’s basketball program is neither the university’s compliance department nor the NCAA told the program it could not recruit any of the three basketball players. This calls into question how Ohio State decided to determine the self-imposed punishments and why they differed so drastically.

Ohio State did not comment on the discrepancy in the the self-imposed punishments.

After learning of the self-imposed punishment on Ohio State’s football program, Parsons’ father, Terrance, told The Lantern that he believed the recruitment of his son ended because of a tweet his son had sent out after the Oklahoma game that then-redshirt freshman quarterback Dwayne Haskins should replace then-redshirt senior J.T. Barrett.

Parsons said he and his son were supposed to meet head coach Urban Meyer the next day, but did not see him and were not contacted by Ohio State after the Oklahoma game except for a brief exchange with Meyer. He said no one ever notified him of the violation, which Ohio State reported on Sept. 26.

The idea of Ohio State using this to smoothen the ending of the recruitment is not far-fetched to Ridpath.

He said that if a program decided it no longer wanted to pursue a player, an NCAA violation would be a convenient excuse to tell the recruit that they can’t be recruited anymore because of a violation.

“I think Mr. Parsons is spot-on correct,” Ridpath said. “Is that nefarious of Ohio State? Not really. They’re playing the game and they’re playing it pretty effectively to be honest with you.”

In both instances, the same three NCAA bylaws were broken.

Entire article: https://www.thelantern.com/2018/04/...-in-ohio-state-self-reported-ncaa-violations/
 
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