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Game Thread Ohio State 33, Washington 14 (Final)

sandgk;925413; said:
Ray was sidelined last week, against Akron he was suited up on the sidelines, but did not participate.
Lots of opinions earlier this thread about rushing game issues. Against Akron the bigger issue was lack of ball security.
Defensively we look very, very good at this point.
The Offense must going early in Seattle.
And that s the thing about Ray that concerns me, the fact that he isn't playing. It makes me wonder just how bad his ankle is or isn't.
We have plenty of speed between Robo, Dane, Hartline, Washington and Torrence we just need practice and experience at that position.
 
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"Does anyone know about Washington's Front Seven on D?"

From CFNs Preview -
What to watch for on defense: The defensive line, which returns all four starters, has to be even better than last year in order to protect a secondary that allowed 240 passing yards a game in 2006 and will be without C.J. Wallace and Dashon Goldson. Greyson Gunheim is a disruptive end with the speed and quickness of an outside linebacker. Don’t sleep on the linebackers just because Scott White and Tahj Bomar have graduated. Their departures open the door for E.J. Savannah, Chris Stevens and Donald Butler, rising kids who could make the unit even better.
The Defense Focus Article - also CFN
Defensive Line[FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT]Projected Starters: Whatever success the Husky defense has in 2007 will start up front with an aggressive, veteran line that returns six lettermen and four starters. The ends, senior Greyson Gunheim and sophomore Daniel Te’o-Nesheim, are high-motor types that combined for 24 tackles for loss and nine sacks in 2006. Gunheim was benched briefly last fall, but still wound up leading the team with 14 tackles for loss and six sacks. At 6-5 and 265 pounds with uncommon speed for a lineman, he’s a pass-rushing terror coming off the edge.

Te’o-Nesheim was one of last season’s pleasant surprises, consistently beating opposing tackles and making plays for minus yards. Neither the quickest nor the biggest Washington lineman at 6-4 and 245 pounds, he’ll simply out work his guy in order to make stops.

After starting 11 games and making 23 tackles in 2006, senior Wilson Afoa is back to anchor the interior of the Husky line. Showing good quickness for a 6-3, 290-pounder, he has to be even more productive as a run stuffer in the season ahead.

Afoa will be joined by fellow senior Jordan Reffett, who started the first five games of his career last season, chipping in 23 tackles and four for loss. At 6-6 and 295 pounds, he’s the team’s biggest lineman, and must play like it if the Huskies are going to improve against the run in 2007.

Projected Top Reserves: After redshirting last season to get bigger and stronger, sophomore Darrion Jones is on his way to becoming the first end off the bench this fall. At 6-3 and 245 pounds, he has the speed and explosion to be a very effective situational rusher.

The other second team end will be senior Caesar Rayford, a two-time letterman that’s seen most of his action on special teams. A terrific all-around athlete, one of his biggest challenges has been adding weight to a lanky, 6-7 frame.

The future at tackle in Seattle will undoubtedly involve redshirt freshman Cameron Elisara, one of the stars of last year’s recruiting class. The 2006 Defensive Scout Team Player of the Year is only 6-2 and 280 pounds, but he’s quick enough to get into the backfield and goes until the whistle on every down. Once Afoa and Reffett graduate, Elisara is destined to become a crowd favorite at Husky Stadium.

Watch Out For… Gunheim and Te’o-Nesheim to quietly be one of the most disruptive set of bookends in the Pac-10. Te’o-Nesheim plays like an animal with no off switch, and Gunheim begins 2007 with a chip on his shoulder after feeling as if underachieved last season
Strength: Experience. With so many veterans returning to the line, the defense will be able to use a deep rotation that keeps everyone fresh beyond halftime, when the Huskies struggled last season.
Weakness: Getting to the quarterback. Other than Gunheim, who had six, no Washington lineman had more than three sacks in 2006, a trend that must change if the leaky pass defense is going to have a prayer.
Outlook: The ends are fringe all-Pac-10 performers and the tackles are reliable big-bodies, giving Washington the building blocks of a very respectable first line of defense.
Rating: 7.5

Linebackers

Projected Starters: Two starters from last year may have departed, but Washington will retool on the fly at linebacker thanks to some terrific recruiting in recent years. The veteran of the group is senior Dan Howell, who started ten games at strongside, and had 35 tackles, six for loss and a team-high three forced fumbles. Named Most Improved Defensive Player in 2006, he’s outstanding in pass defense and ready to assume more of a leadership role on the defense.

After learning the ropes in 2006 and lettering as a freshman, E.J. Savannah stepped up this spring and won himself the job at weakside linebacker. A highly instinctive defender with great sideline-to-sideline quickness, he’s got a very bright future with the Huskies.

In the middle will be Donald Butler, one of just two freshmen to receive playing time in 2006. Mature beyond his years, he was thrust into action last fall, and responded with 24 tackles and improved play as the season wound down.
 
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R0CK3TM4NN;925275; said:
That Washington board cracks me up. They have the nerve to discredit our defense based on our NC game performance when they didn't even make a bowl last year.

Well, if I were a UW fan, I'd being saying the same thing. We gave up 80 points the last two games of '06. Granted, we've allowed only 6 points so far defensively this year, but that was against a I-AA team (albeit a I-AA powerhouse) and mid-tier MAC team, and at home. Holding UW to under 20 points at their place will be a challenge...
 
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MililaniBuckeye;925686; said:
Well, if I were a UW fan, I'd being saying the same thing. We gave up 80 points the last two games of '06. Granted, we've allowed only 6 points so far defensively this year, but that was against a I-AA team (albeit a I-AA powerhouse) and mid-tier MAC team, and at home. Holding UW to under 20 points at their place will be a challenge...


I'd be saying the same thing too... but there is also nothing wrong with calling them out. To think their offense is anything like 2006 tsun or Florida is pretty arrogant and methinks some people are drinking too much koolaid.

On the UW fans being "classless" or "unbearable", I've had the same impression of Oregon, WVU, UL, and many other fanbases in the past. (trolling ESPN boards) Yet I know Oregonbuck here is a standup guy, and I also know a lot of people in Seattle who root for UW -- and none of them act this stupid. So I'm going to chalk it up to the 12-year-old-trash-talking-mentality which is often fostered on the internet.
 
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Thanks Sandgk REPS for ya man....

That write up of their Defensive line made no sense what so ever... It goes on to talk bout how they have tremendous speed coming off the end and their quarterback terror's... Then the weakness of the front seven is they don't get to the quarterback?

Well they have a veteran front 4 and we have a "veteran" o line so we'll see what happens... that write up makes me nervous makes them sound like world beaters over there. None of them though are Vernon Gholston/Robert Rose so I think we'll be ok.
 
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bukIpower;925714; said:
Thanks Sandgk REPS for ya man....

That write up of their Defensive line made no sense what so ever... It goes on to talk bout how they have tremendous speed coming off the end and their quarterback terror's... Then the weakness of the front seven is they don't get to the quarterback?

Well they have a veteran front 4 and we have a "veteran" o line so we'll see what happens... that write up makes me nervous makes them sound like world beaters over there. None of them though are Vernon Gholston/Robert Rose so I think we'll be ok.


I've seen parts of both their games and UW's front 7 is legit imo. Biggest, fastest, most experienced group we will play before PSU. Even if we weren't making mistakes by the gross I'd say they would give us problems running between the tackles.

That said, their secondary is tsun bad. Pass to set up the run, short drops, good pass pro, spread them out a lot and we should be fine.

OSU advantages imo:
Depth
Our D vs their O
Coaching
Every facet of ST
Pass offense vs their pass D

UW advantages:
Run D vs our offense
Pass rush if we get too predictible
Home field
West coast malaise that seems to always happen out there

It really just keeps coming back to the offense being somewhat productive while eliminating penalties and turnovers. If we do that we should be fine.

As always I think the advantage we have in ST play is going to be over looked by most.
 
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with the 3:30 start though that mean the boys will feel like its 11:30 and we've been playing all our games at 12 so we'll be fine in that department. If it was Noon start I'd be worried.

I think what we should do is put ourselves in 4 wide and try and get their front seven down to a nickle or dime and run our 240 pound tailback into their DB's... I think lining up in I formation and tryin to pound them all game would be a dumb thing to do (wouldn't surprise me though to see us do it and be successful). I think we're more than fine on offense jus need to execute for one game and get this offense some confidence and we'll roll the rest the season. This is a perfect game for it too tough crowd, good front 7, and a notiable school.
 
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I am less concerned about this game than some other posters.

Essentially, I agree with JaxBuck. Turnovers are the problem. UW appears to be sounder defensively against the run (although one opponent might not have been able to run against me). Ohio State has faced lesser "name brands" but both opponents were probably a roughly equivalent test to the defenses that UW has faced.

No doubt this week the players will be more focused and there has been a lot of work on execution, more specifically, turnovers.

I think we can run against that front line, provided we are successful with the pass. Their defensive secondary gives us some opportunities in the air. We have the resources to exploit that weakness. When they try to shut down the pass, then I think Beanie Wells will break a couple of longer runs.

Their offense relies heavily on the run. It will be far harder for them to run against us, than it is for us to pass against them.

I think we win by 14, 21-7 or 24-10.
 
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I should add something. The sports pundits have provided plenty of material about Ohio State being "average" this week. The team will not be unaware that they and the Big Ten are getting no respect. I think that they will want to send the press and the Pac10 a message this week.
 
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