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Game Thread Ohio State 24, Penn State 7 (final; 11/07/09)

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LordJeffBuck;1588133; said:
9. Ray Small had a couple of long punt returns yesterday, but he missed a chance at the Buckeye record books when his potential 92-yarder was derailed at the halfway point by the Penn State punter, who made a touchdown-saving tackle in the open field. I'm sure that Ray's teammamtes won't let him forget about that one any time soon....
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That was a helluva tackle for a punter...

scott91575;1588136; said:
That is because they called for a booth review just before the first kick, and we missed it while at commercial break. While at commercial, it was upheld. When we got back from commercial PSU kicked another extra point.
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That late booth review fucking cost me a lawn chair... :lol:
 
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Wow. I didn't mean to open this can of worms.

I was just that proud of our defense for stopping a fairly high powered offensive plan. I was also more upset that it keeps happening as opposed to the fact that it happened. When we lost to USC, I accepted it. When it happened again, I Was more miffed that we lost the shut out only.

I will not whine about this anymore. Again my apologies.
 
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Oh8ch;1588242; said:
This claim is already getting old.

Miami fans are still crying about the "Robbery in the Desert" and they sound like whiny little bitches. Let s not do the same.
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Not the same thing at all, not even close. This isn't whining about what-could-have been and claiming a loss was really a win: this is just a matter of taking pride in our tremendous defense that let up only a phantom score that had no bearing on the outcome whatsoever.

Plus, PI is a very subjective call, as are many penalties, while whether the ball crossed the goal-line is less so and there's a good argument to be made that was not a TD. I doubt anybody's really lobbying the NCAA stat-geeks to count it as a zero, but I don't see the harm in the OSU D or its fans feeling like they shut-out the "high-powered" Penn State O.

Let the PSU fans be the ones to quibble that they only lost 24-7.
 
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This isn't whining about what-could-have been and claiming a loss was really a win:
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Since it wont go away easy....

I just watched the replay again. If I am the replay official I absolutely do not overturn that call.

Clark's original stretch did not cross the goal line. However, as he pulled the ball to his chest his body continued to move forward. At least part of his chest broke the plane but I could not see the ball and therefore could not say conclusively that the ball did not also break the plane. Nor do I know what the official based the TD call on.

All that said, my apologies if any individual feels like I was calling them out. But I am hearing this "shutout" stuff from all angles and IMO it sounds a bit bush. Calling a game a shutout that isn't a shutout seems the same to me as calling a game a win that isn't a win. Whether they scored 7 or not takes nothing away from an incredible defensive performance.
 
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Oh8ch;1588539; said:
Since it wont go away easy....

I just watched the replay again. If I am the replay official I absolutely do not overturn that call.

Clark's original stretch did not cross the goal line. However, as he pulled the ball to his chest his body continued to move forward. At least part of his chest broke the plane but I could not see the ball and therefore could not say conclusively that the ball did not also break the plane. Nor do I know what the official based the TD call on.

All that said, my apologies if any individual feels like I was calling them out. But I am hearing this "shutout" stuff from all angles and IMO it sounds a bit bush. Calling a game a shutout that isn't a shutout seems the same to me as calling a game a win that isn't a win. Whether they scored 7 or not takes nothing away from an incredible defensive performance.
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Yeah, I am 99% sure that the ball never crossed, but there was no available replay angle that could possibly overturn the call. That said, it is too bad that in a nationally televised game, there were not cameras on BOTH sides of the goal line.
 
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Woody1968;1588551; said:
Yeah, I am 99% sure that the ball never crossed, but there was no available replay angle that could possibly overturn the call. That said, it is too bad that in a nationally televised game, there were not cameras on BOTH sides of the goal line.
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Which makes one wonder what the fuck the ref saw to declare it a TD...which is why Buckeye fans doubt if it was ever scored.
 
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BUCKYLE;1588553; said:
Which makes one wonder what the fuck the ref saw to declare it a TD...which is why Buckeye fans doubt if it was ever scored.
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The refs were probably too busy giggling to themselves still over the PI they called on Torrence.

I can take the bad calls, the blown calls, and even the right calls that go against my team. But the ref laughing while he's calling the penalty really got under my skin.
 
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BUCKYLE;1588553; said:
Which makes one wonder what the [censored] the ref saw to declare it a TD...which is why Buckeye fans doubt if it was ever scored.
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I'm not one to whine about bad calls...much...LOL. But after watching the replay, it seemed like the officials immediately signaled TD after Clarks initial stretch to the endzone. That was what seemed strange because the replay seemed pretty clear that he didn't get there on his initial push. So if he got in after that under the pile where the replay couldn't see it, then fine. But that didn't appear to be how the officials originally called it.

That said, now that I've watched it a few times, I don't think there was conclusive evidence to overturn it. Just wondering why it was ruled a TD on the field in the first place.

My last thought on the refs for the game is that I was relatively happy that they called a few timely holds on PSU. Granted, our guys appeared to be held all day, but the zebras called a few that really came at nice times. There, I actually said something positive about Big Ten officials. :biggrin: Didn't know I had it in me. :)
 
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LordJeffBuck;1588133; said:
7. If the Buckeyes win out, then they would capture their fifth straight Big Ten title...Which raises the following question: Is Ohio State that good, or is the Big Ten that bad? Either way, let's just enjoy it while it lasts.
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Actually, tsun is that bad.

Historically, the rest of the conference has often been mediocre. Since tOSU and tsun have typically dominated the B10 the last two generations, Coach Tressel's dominance of tsun has caused a dramatic turn of events.

Big Two and the Little Eight? The B10 is now the "Big One" and the "little ten."

And that's the way I like it.
 
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Sportsbuck28;1588266; said:
One thing I love was how JT cleared out the box early on with the swings to Posey.. forced PSU to respect it and opened up running lanes for Boom and Saine.
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Absolutely.

There has been quite a bit of discussion about utilizing short passes in the 2009 tOSU Offense thread the past few weeks.

One way to measure the future progress of TP will be to see how JT permits Pryor to expand his repertoire of short passes.
 
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