Well, that's only because he's still laying there on the turf at the Horseshoe from two years ago.TGfan06;1770932; said:Figuring that Theo Scott is no longer on the team, I am calling Bullshit!
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Well, that's only because he's still laying there on the turf at the Horseshoe from two years ago.TGfan06;1770932; said:Figuring that Theo Scott is no longer on the team, I am calling Bullshit!
yeah.....but as our new friend Mr. Dahmer can point out, if Ohio State's entire roster had committed to Ohio instead, you'd be singing a different tune.Well, that's only because he's still laying there on the turf at the Horseshoe from two years ago.
JeffreyDahmer2;1771232; said:Ohio wasn't even a state until March of 1803; so it's fair to discard the American Western name. The University's name was changed 11 months after statehood. It probably took that much time to Pony Express the proper paperwork between Athens and Washington. As far as Guv'nor Hayes is concerned... I find it more than coincidental that he was an outspoken advocate for A&M, helped found A&M, and denied land grant opportunities to Ohio University?
That's not the only break you guys got. The Eagleson Bill of 1906 locked out all of Ohio's public universities from doctoral education and research except The Ohio State University. (Why this was good for the state blows my mind, but probably not those in Columbus) Six years later the Big 10 picked up the Buckeyes. The Big Ten Conference is comprised of world-class academic institutions who share a common mission of research, graduate, professional and undergraduate teaching and public service. If no one in Ohio was allowed to conduct research or graduate education in the state of Ohio except Ohio State of course the Big 10 chose them. They wanted Ohio's population and rich football history as a state to be a part of their conference.
I know you guys don't like to play in the past because of all of the recent successes in Columbus so I'll let you know the Eagleson Bill is obviously no longer legal and Ohio University is #1 in the state in research royalties (which means we invent stuff that makes money) and Ohio University had a Nobel Prize Winner in 2009.
Without some critical legislation early in OUr state's history, Ohio University might have been the shepherd for all of these sheep.
JeffreyDahmer2;1771232; said:That's not the only break you guys got. The Eagleson Bill of 1906 locked out all of Ohio's public universities from doctoral education and research except The Ohio State University. (Why this was good for the state blows my mind, but probably not those in Columbus)
The Ohio State University has attempted to set satisfactory standards and to establish an acceptable procedure for evaluating high schools and their preparatory programs. All is to no avail, however, because the Ohio and Miami universities are not obliged to follow a similar course.....
The Ohio State University may fairly be called a university, but Ohio and Miami are certainly not university grade institutions. If Ohio State University could be relieved of the pressures created by the latter two, then Ohio might find itself the proud possessor of a university like the one in Wisconsin.....
JeffreyDahmer2;1771232; said:Ohio wasn't even a state until March of 1803; so it's fair to discard the American Western name. The University's name was changed 11 months after statehood. It probably took that much time to Pony Express the proper paperwork between Athens and Washington. As far as Guv'nor Hayes is concerned... I find it more than coincidental that he was an outspoken advocate for A&M, helped found A&M, and denied land grant opportunities to Ohio University?
That's not the only break you guys got. The Eagleson Bill of 1906 locked out all of Ohio's public universities from doctoral education and research except The Ohio State University. (Why this was good for the state blows my mind, but probably not those in Columbus) Six years later the Big 10 picked up the Buckeyes. The Big Ten Conference is comprised of world-class academic institutions who share a common mission of research, graduate, professional and undergraduate teaching and public service. If no one in Ohio was allowed to conduct research or graduate education in the state of Ohio except Ohio State of course the Big 10 chose them. They wanted Ohio's population and rich football history as a state to be a part of their conference.
I know you guys don't like to play in the past because of all of the recent successes in Columbus so I'll let you know the Eagleson Bill is obviously no longer legal and Ohio University is #1 in the state in research royalties (which means we invent stuff that makes money) and Ohio University had a Nobel Prize Winner in 2009.
Without some critical legislation early in OUr state's history, Ohio University might have been the shepherd for all of these sheep.
ORD_Buckeye;1771487; said:we co-own the Vatican
BuckeyeNation27;1771284; said:yeah.....but as our new friend Mr. Dahmer can point out, if Ohio State's entire roster had committed to Ohio instead, you'd be singing a different tune.
ORD_Buckeye;1771560; said:If only Ohio Stadium had only been built in Athens....
ORD_Buckeye;1771487; said:First, I'd like to congratulate you on that Nobel winning alum. That means that all 12 of The Other State Universities combined now have exactly half as many Nobel Laureate alumni as their glorious Flagship University in Columbus.
As for the little bit of patent and royalty money that OU makes on its research, that just shows that you are in the B (or C) leagues.
JeffreyDahmer2;1771616; said:First, The Ohio State University claims as many false Nobel Laureates as National Championships. (I'm not even counting the U game, it is what it is)
Second, Ohio University is a Tier 1 University. It has been established that an IQ above 130 doesn't really help with success in the real world. (There is a great book by Malcolm Gladwell called "Outliers" that discusses this topic) The reason I mention it is because once you attend a Tier 1 University, realistically, you've been provided with all the necessary tools and it's up to you to take control of your life and be successful. The extras are for the birds. Both Ohio State, Miami, and Ohio University have various nationally well respected programs in the state. I don't really care how much you spend on research. I don't care if Gordon Gee left work early to drink Dr. Pepper at a Frat house.
The point is Ohio is a tremendous school. I wouldn't go anywhere else given the chance. I mean wasn't it less than 30 years ago when you cholos were open enrollment?
You have a superior football team. You have a bigger football stadium. You have enough sheep to keep America warm through the next Ice Age. You have a great academic institution. But don't keep using OUr name and expect to walk away without some kind of peep.
JeffreyDahmer2;1771616; said:First, The Ohio State University claims as many false Nobel Laureates as National Championships. (I'm not even counting the U game, it is what it is)
Second, Ohio University is a Tier 1 University. It has been established that an IQ above 130 doesn't really help with success in the real world. (There is a great book by Malcolm Gladwell called "Outliers" that discusses this topic) The reason I mention it is because once you attend a Tier 1 University, realistically, you've been provided with all the necessary tools and it's up to you to take control of your life and be successful. The extras are for the birds. Both Ohio State, Miami, and Ohio University have various nationally well respected programs in the state. I don't really care how much you spend on research. I don't care if Gordon Gee left work early to drink Dr. Pepper at a Frat house.
The point is Ohio is a tremendous school. I wouldn't go anywhere else given the chance. I mean wasn't it less than 30 years ago when you cholos were open enrollment?
You have a superior football team. You have a bigger football stadium. You have enough sheep to keep America warm through the next Ice Age. You have a great academic institution. But don't keep using OUr name and expect to walk away without some kind of peep.
Some food for thought,
http://thepost.baker.ohiou.edu/archives/102297/ohio.html