Official Jesse Palmer is a horrible analyst thread

[mb7015a]

Did Jesse get any experience on a lower level before ascending to ESPN? Herbstreit's body of work before Gameday included local network coverage of high school football games, Palmer seemingly jumped into the big leagues without getting the seasoning most other analysts get.

 

[Bernini]

You think I dislike Spielman as an announcer because of what he looks like? There's a straw man for you. Jesse Palmer is being compared to John Madden in the category of being overtly obvious, but Spielman epitomizes that flaw. I think he has about 4 words in his vocabulary and two are slobberknocker and leverage. Announcers these days using the word leverage to refer to just about everything in football is what makes me want to tear my hair out. "The defender should have done a better job with his outside leverage"....what does leverage have to do with a DE or LB funneling the ballcarrier inside. That's more appropriately referred to as contain and has more to do with discipline, responsibility, positioning, and quickness.

 

[Dryden]

Did Jesse get any experience on a lower level before ascending to ESPN? Herbstreit's body of work before Gameday included local network coverage of high school football games, Palmer seemingly jumped into the big leagues without getting the seasoning most other analysts get.

Are you suggesting that his one season filming The Bachelor does not somehow qualify him for a sports commentator position with the World Wide Leader?

 

[billmac91]

You think I dislike Spielman as an announcer because of what he looks like? There's a straw man for you. Jesse Palmer is being compared to John Madden in the category of being overtly obvious, but Spielman epitomizes that flaw. I think he has about 4 words in his vocabulary and two are slobberknocker and leverage. Announcers these days using the word leverage to refer to just about everything in football is what makes me want to tear my hair out. "The defender should have done a better job with his outside leverage"....what does leverage have to do with a DE or LB funneling the ballcarrier inside. That's more appropriately referred to as contain and has more to do with discipline, responsibility, positioning, and quickness.

Did you enjoy Spielman's call when he said Ohio State's defense was leaving the QB follow open by focusing solely on the FB up the middle, and on the next play the QB did a FB follow and busted it for a TD??

People may not like Spielman's tone or lack of an expansive vocabulary, but he knows the game extremely well. He also calls it the way he sees it, which a lot of announcers tippy toe around.

I don't think Spiels is great, but he is a helluva lot better than a lot of the guys employed right now. I think Todd Blackledge is easily the best in all of football including NFL, followed closely by Gary Danielson.....

 

[jwinslow]

I don't think Spiels is great, but he is a helluva lot better than a lot of the guys employed right now.

He's not up against the Blackledge, Davis, Herbstreit types either. His booth colleagues are typically Pam Ward, Andre Ware, etc... and he's outstanding for that realm of announcing (4th/5th tier games).

 

[Dryden]

Did you enjoy Spielman's call when he said Ohio State's defense was leaving the QB follow open by focusing solely on the FB up the middle, and on the next play the QB did a FB follow and busted it for a TD??

People may not like Spielman's tone or lack of an expansive vocabulary, but he knows the game extremely well. He also calls it the way he sees it, which a lot of announcers tippy toe around.

I don't think Spiels is great, but he is a helluva lot better than a lot of the guys employed right now. I think Todd Blackledge is easily the best in all of football including NFL, followed closely by Gary Danielson.....

One call I remember was from a game about three or four years - one of those cellar dwelling Big Ten conference games on ESPN2 at noon - where Spielman was working with Pam Ward. Spiels noted as Northwestern was taking the field for a punt, that they were going to fake it, because he noticed two or three different assistant coaches had stopped the NW punter to say something while the punter was running onto the field. Sure enough, it was a fake that went for first down yardage and kept a drive alive.

One thing I've always appreciated about Spielman is that he relays observations to the audience that the cameras don't capture.

 

[BuckeyeTillIDie]

Announcers these days using the word leverage to refer to just about everything in football..

Even still, the most overused word is speed.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Even still, the most overused word is speed.

One I notice the much belied Herbie has become more and more reliant on.

 

[MaxBuck]

I really like Rod Gilmore, though I cheerfully admit that may be just because he speaks at a level understandable by someone with my limited knowledge of the game.

Paul Maguire, on the other hand, makes me puke.

 

[OregonBuckeye]

Paul Maguire, on the other hand, makes me puke.

Paul grew on me. I thought he was ok. Griese was the worst of that trio with Nessler and Maguire.

The worst is still far and away Mike Patrick. There isn't one positive thing he brings other than occasional unintentional comedy.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Spiels looked like he wanted to fuck Bob and the other dude up at one point saturday. They called him a homer because he said that the strip was obviously a fumble, which it was. They took their shots, and it cut to the three of them standing there, and Spiels couldn't stand still...had a nasty fucking look on his face too. I wanted to hear mic feedback and then see 36 have Bob in a headlock, choking the life out of him.

 

[NateG]

Spiels looked like he wanted to [censored] Bob and the other dude up at one point saturday. They called him a homer because he said that the strip was obviously a fumble, which it was. They took their shots, and it cut to the three of them standing there, and Spiels couldn't stand still...had a nasty [censored]ing look on his face too. I wanted to hear mic feedback and then see 36 have Bob in a headlock, choking the life out of him.

"This, BOB, is what they call leverage!!!!" And by the way, Spiels' comback was great...

Bob- that coming from a TRUE BUCKEYE
Chris- that coming from a TRUE DEFENDER(under his breath i believe "*ickhead" was mentioned.....j/k...but not really)

 

[sepia5]

Anyone (and by "anyone," I mean Woof) hear Palmer just take a shot at UGA a few minutes ago? In describing S. Carolina's dominant performance against S. Miss, he basically said S. Miss "isn't Florida or Alabama, OR EVEN Georgia." Ouch! UGA is apparently tier two!

 

[Gatorubet]

Anyone (and by "anyone," I mean Woof) hear Palmer just take a shot at UGA a few minutes ago? In describing S. Carolina's dominant performance against S. Miss, he basically said S. Miss "isn't Florida or Alabama, OR EVEN Georgia." Ouch! UGA is apparently tier two!

????????? Apparently??? I don't get this at all???
I thought everyone knew this bit of data as a "given"

 

[Mike80]

this just in, as an analyst, Palmer is still a mouth-breathing idiot.