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DaddyBigBucks;1011737; said:
That is definitely part of it. And the fact that some of our less "urbane" fellow Buckeyes respond to every little thing written about OSU keeps some of it going.

But I'm racking my brain here and I can't remember a time when there was ever a poll on whose "fault" it was that some team or other made it into an NC game. To treat our impending (presumed) rise to the #2 spot in the polls as something just short of a National Tragedy does seem to be a bit much.

But as I've made very clear; I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Oh, I agree that OSU is clearly a "target" and I agreed that OSU was in the cross hairs on the Mo C thing (that is, I was on the ESPiN is out to get us side of the argument, though not so much that I was ever talking about banning watching football on the network or any some such) As you ID, the target now is because OSU has fans who can't let it go... any small slight, real or perceived must be CORRECTED!!!!!

We all do it, but most of us just do it here to ourselves, rather than feeding the beast.
 
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OregonBuckeye;1006931; said:
Our old friend Dodd with some juicy stuff. Haven't heard the term "Luckeyes" in a while.

NCAA Football - CBSSports.com
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Here's what I sent to this dipshit:

Ohio State's "embarrassing loss to Illinois"? You mean the Illinois that's 9-3, #15 in the BCS standings, and gave current #1 Missouri all in could handle in a 6-point loss in the season opener? Right. Clearly that's more embarrassing than LSU losing two games to now-unranked teams who total nine losses between them. Clearly more embarrassing than mighty USC losing--at home--to freakin' 3-8 Stanford...you know, the same Stanford who just got beat at home by a pathetic, national-laughingstock Notre Dame.

News flash, baldy: Nearly every team this year has an embarrassing loss. Just quit being bitter over how horrid your Notre Dame team is this year, and don't project your anger on the team that waxed your beloved Irish the last three times they played.

It must be pretty hard for you to type your "articles" when your clown shoes keep you four feet from the monitor.
 
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The thing is, even if we get in the NC and win, we will still not get any love. No reporter is going to say, "well I messed up that one". All the talk is going to be about how LSU, USC, Georgia, and 80 other teams are better. How this is proof that CFB needs a playoff. This is almost a lose-lose...but at least we will know...we will know!
 
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BigJax;1011763; said:
The thing is, even if we get in the NC and win, we will still not get any love. No reporter is going to say, "well I messed up that one". All the talk is going to be about how LSU, USC, Georgia, and 80 other teams are better. How this is proof that CFB needs a playoff. This is almost a lose-lose...but at least we will know...we will know!
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I'm getting kind of sick of this argument. Who the hell cares what Mark May or Colin Cowherd has to say? If the crystal football is in the trophy case the talking heads can talk all they want.
 
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Pheasant;1011769; said:
I'm getting kind of sick of this argument. Who the hell cares what Mark May or Colin Cowherd has to say? If the crystal football is in the trophy case the talking heads can talk all they want.
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At this point, the biggest reason (maybe the only reason) to care is: they can cause/influence the AP poll to name a different National Champion and "we" will be bombarded with "OSU couldn't even win a 'real' national championship" ... neglecting that the great USC machine picked up a similarly tainted title (and didn't even get a crystal football for their efforts).
 
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DaddyBigBucks;1011710; said:
The media is slipping a little...

On the afternoon drive home, some ESPN radio guys were talking about that poll and they immediately dismissed the weak schedule thing! They mentioned that we had a home-home (their phrase for it) with Texas in 05-06 and had one coming up with USC the next two years. Even went so far as to say this year was an exception to the rule of ambitious scheduling for the Buckeyes.

Then on the College Football Live, they showed a question from a Buckeye fan that made a point that has been on these boards many times. To wit: If the Buckeyes are slow, why do they put so many players in the NFL. Here is the scary part though: Rece Davis' response to this was that the whole "Buckeyes are slow" thing is overblown!

Should we worry? I was really hoping that the media spin would be a constant drum beat of disrespect and derision. This can't be very motivating to the players. I mean, it's not like they have anything else to play for. Whatever will we do?
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The Rece davis response is not that hard to believe. Personally I don't think the guy is all that bad compared to some *cough* Mark May *cough* but even so this is what happens when people ask intelligent questions that force them to back up statements with facts. They typicaly have none so they just say it was "overblown"

again this is the state of sports reporting now a days particulary with CFB. You don't have to actually report anything based on fact just say something that will piss a fan base off and hope they don't get a chance to call you one it.
 
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Lockup;1011415; said:
The more and more I see out of the crap ESPN calls analysts the more I just get completley disgusted with the current state of sport's reporting. It is no longer people who actually have any facts to back up their arguments with that do the talking. It sounds more like regualr fans saying stuff.
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I think it is more of a societal issue as sports does not own a monopoly on sensationalist journalism. It just so happens that ESPN is the poster child for sports sensationalism and they get away with it most of the time since they are the largest sports outlet in America.
 
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bkochmc;1012031; said:
I think it is more of a societal issue as sports does not own a monopoly on sensationalist journalism. It just so happens that ESPN is the poster child for sports sensationalism and they get away with it most of the time since they are the largest sports outlet in America.
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Well your right I see it other places as well, heck just look at the articels that are posted around here. I guess I give ESPN the most grief about it though because they are the visible leader in sports and everybody seems to try and copy them. They should be setting a better example for the rest of the industry.
 
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Lockup;1012036; said:
Well your right I see it other places as well, heck just look at the articels that are posted around here. I guess I give ESPN the most grief about it though because they are the visible leader in sports and everybody seems to try and copy them. They should be setting a better example for the rest of the industry.
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And you (and many others including myself) give them the most grief because this is a sports site. :wink: Also remember their channel is actually called Entertainment and Sports Programming Network so they are going to do whatever they can to "Entertain" the most viewers including lowering their journalistic standards which they became respected for in the 80's and 90's.
 
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bkochmc;1012038; said:
And you (and many others including myself) give them the most grief because this is a sports site. :wink: Also remember their channel is actually called Entertainment and Sports Programming Network so they are going to do whatever they can to "Entertain" get the most viewers including lowering their journalistic standards which they became respected for in the 80's and 90's.
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Exactly. Case in point: professional wrestling. As of several years ago, wrestling was the #1 show on cable programming. (I never cared enough to check the numbers since then.) It didn't matter that it wasn't real. It was entertaining to its audience. I don't want to get into a real or not real argument. I'm just pointing out that the entertainment of the show can possibly outweigh the validity.
 
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Zurp;1012051; said:
Exactly. Case in point: professional wrestling. As of several years ago, wrestling was the #1 show on cable programming. (I never cared enough to check the numbers since then.) It didn't matter that it wasn't real. It was entertaining to its audience. I don't want to get into a real or not real argument. I'm just pointing out that the entertainment of the show can possibly outweigh the validity.
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Well the problem I have with that is Pro wrestling everybody with an IQ above 50 knew itwas fake and was strictly there for entertainment purposes.

ESPN is reporting on something real and even puts themselves out there as a news organization for sports. I understand they are going to do things and have shows that are meant to entertain. I am cool with all that. guys getting the blood boiling of fans is all good and is what is part of the fun of CFB. They seem to have very few people who want to be real reporters instead of shock jocks. They need more real reporters. Plus you can argue a point like "Big East is weak" and use some actual data to backup what you say. Most never seem to do that though. They just say things off the cuff to fire people up and when they get called on it they look like the idiots they are.
 
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