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agreeBig Papa;835750; said:Major props to the restaurant owner for taking a stand like that. I wouldn't want that piece of shit in my place of business either.
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agreeBig Papa;835750; said:Major props to the restaurant owner for taking a stand like that. I wouldn't want that piece of shit in my place of business either.
stxbuck;835708; said:Jeff Ruby always makes the news in Cincinnati for doing something unusual in his restaurants in Cincy every few years. He was dragged by a car and almost died a while back, and a couple of years after that, when a party of Bengals gave a $50 tip on a $1000 bill, he chewed out the players and called Mike Brown the next morning.
tibor75;835918; said:If you were employed by Mike Brown, you'd be a penny pincher too.
osugrad21;835923; said:Maybe they should have tipped in rep and vCash instead of real money...that seems to be the preference of some
buckeyefool;835665; said:The owner< Ruby< is one of the brothers who founded Montgomery Inn.
LINKO.J. Simpson's attorney, Yale Galanter, sees the incident in an entirely different way. He later said the incident was about race and that he intended to pursue the matter and said he might possibly go after Ruby's liquor license. Galanter said by phone: "He screwed with the wrong guy, he really did."
Yale Galanter is a criminal attorney who has not only represented O.J. Simpson in his "road rage" case in Florida, he is supposedly some kind of spokesman for his client as well.
Whether Galanter's vision of playing 'the race card' is viable remains to be seen. He doesn't have a Mark Fuhrman in Jeff Ruby. Indeed, this is not the first time that Simpson has been in Ruby's restaurant. In fact, Mr. Ruby used to have a picture of himself and O.J. hanging on the wall but after all of the events that transpired since the 1994 killings of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, he took the photo down.
"This was the only thing I could do for the victims' families," Ruby later said. He added that approximately 50 other people in the private room where Simpson had been seated "stood up and applauded me" when Simpson left.
BrutuStrength;835675; said:Good for him. I wonder how many people dining there would feel comfortable with him wielding a steak knife.
No shit, seeing simpson with a knife should make people feel a bit on edge. Kudos to old boy for doing the right thing.
Bob Saccamano;836487; said:Why? He was found innocent...
WoodyWorshiper;836558; said:Uh, no. He was found "Not Guilty." Jurors do NOT have the option of voting for "Innocent." And by the way, there is a HUGE difference between calling someone "innocent" and calling them "not guilty."
no, a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. by the way, please cite the amendment that addresses presumption of innocence.tibor75;836564; said:A person is innocent until presumed guilty... Gee, I didn't think the Constitution was that hard to understand.
tibor75;836564; said:
Uh, no there is not. A trial is used to determine if somebody is guilty. Hence, "not guilty." A person is innocent until presumed guilty.
Hence, he is innocent.
Gee, I didn't think the Constitution was that hard to understand.
tibor75;836564; said:Uh, no there is not. A trial is used to determine if somebody is guilty. Hence, "not guilty." A person is innocent until presumed guilty. Hence, he is innocent. Gee, I didn't think the Constitution was that hard to understand.
When a jury returns a verdict of not guilty, that means that the state has not convinced the jury beyond a reasonable doubt as to all the elements of the crime with which the defendant has been charged. For example, in a first degree murder case, the state must prove that the defendant deliberately and with malice unlawfully caused the death of another human being. If the defendant presents a valid defense that he killed the victim in self-defense, then the defendant is not innocent of homicide -- he did in fact kill another human being -- but he is "not guilty" of homicide because the state did not convince the jury that the defendant acted with premeditated malice aforethought.
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OSU_Buckguy;836572; said:
by the way, do we have a "dumbass" award?
do you honestly think that if a trial finds a defendant not guilty, it then means that the defendant is found innocent? it should also be pointed out that actual innocence or guilt is independent of the result of a trial. if a person has committed a crime, the result of the trial doesn't matter. the person is still actually guilty.