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Notre Dame Fighting Irish (official thread of bowl failures)

OCBucksFan;1075481; said:
That's because tOSU is relevant in the landscape of college football whereas Notre Dame's relevance is quickly fading. Which, in all honesty, is pretty sad overall. The only people who currently care about Notre Dame is the fans and Lou Holtz.

And the only people who care about OSU is the fans ......
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF;1075504; said:
And the only people who care about OSU is the fans ......

Well if you are playing on my words, let me rephrase, the only people who care about Notre Dame are Notre Dame fans. If that was an attempt at a reply, more people care about us than we would like, because if they didn't, we wouldn't be getting constantly ripped by the media. The reason we get so much shit is because in the landscape of college football we are a top player, Notre Dame isn't and hasn't been a serious contender in a long time, even when you were going to BCS bowls no one took you seriously.
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF;1075495; said:
You have a point and while I would trade records. ND got mentioned caually every week while OSU had to endure 2 weks or so of constant bashing.
Ohio State is mentioned because Ohio State matters.

Although it obviously speaks volumes that 3-9 Notre Dame got mentioned every week (Speaks volumes about the loyalty of the fans, and how much prestige the Notre Dame program has historically), the bottom line is that I'd rather have a 3rd straight 10+ win season and get bashed on by sports analysts, then be mentioned casually on radio shows and have a 3-9 year.

I'm happy my team is the topic of so much discussion. Being the bad guy has a nice taste to it.

:oh:
 
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Let's be honest about this.

ND got mentioned each week through the UCLA game precisely because they were going through an unprecedented run of ineptitude.

They were the (as NDCHIEF's sig indicates) the unwilling circus clowns of college football last year.

Their run to zero wins and all losses would not have been news without ND's past history, nor their unique exposure on NBC. They couldn't run, they couldn't pass and they couldn't hide. And everyone else had a good laugh at their expense.
 
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sandgk;1076077; said:
And everyone else had a good laugh at their expense.

Can't attest to everyone else, but I sure did.

Chief has been level headed and even admits that maybe Weis is a little less (pun intended) than he was cracked up to be, but it seems that a lot of ND fans are living in a dream world thinking that their program is still relevant in ways other than as the butt of a joke, and that their coach is still the second coming of Rockne, just a little slow in arriving.

This head stuck in the sand, if I close my eyes you can't see me attitude is priceless and what makes people (me at least) have such a dislike for most things ND, their pure arrogance built on things that mostly happened well before most nearly all of their "fans" were born.
 
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sandgk;1076077; said:
Let's be honest about this.

ND got mentioned each week through the UCLA game precisely because they were going through an unprecedented run of ineptitude.

They were the (as NDCHIEF's sig indicates) the unwilling circus clowns of college football last year.

Their run to zero wins and all losses would not have been news without ND's past history, nor their unique exposure on NBC. They couldn't coach, they couldn't run, they couldn't pass and they couldn't hide. And everyone else had a good laugh at their expense.

Fixed that for you! :)
 
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sandgk;1076077; said:
Their run to zero wins and all losses would not have been news without ND's past history, nor their unique exposure on NBC. They couldn't run, they couldn't pass and they couldn't hide. And everyone else had a good laugh at their expense.


True, had they been going into that Stanford game with zero wins, they would have been discussion topic, but after the fUCLA victory, the talk was all over, then they were just a horrible team with a smug fat guy coaching. The chance for history was gone, the tv ratings went down, and people, other than NoD fans, stopped really caring, though, I will confess, I watched the navy game :)
 
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ND not relevant? This thread (and many more on this board) speak otherwise.

I remember seeing Greg Bellisari getting his hair cut at Tech's (or whatever it was called) in 1995 and saying before the game how ND wasn't that great, why does everybody talk about them, etc etc. Of course, the second any team does beat ND, all they do is talk, how they beat the supposed best program in football.

If ND is just as relevant as Michigan State, shouldn't they be treated as such by opposing fans?

can't have it both ways
 
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tibor75;1076219; said:
ND not relevant? This thread (and many more on this board) speak otherwise.

I remember seeing Greg Bellisari getting his hair cut at Tech's (or whatever it was called) in 1995 and saying before the game how ND wasn't that great, why does everybody talk about them, etc etc. Of course, the second any team does beat ND, all they do is talk, how they beat the supposed best program in football.

If ND is just as relevant as Michigan State, shouldn't they be treated as such by opposing fans?

can't have it both ways

Maybe I'm having a difficulty getting my head around "relevance" and "popularity" I find it hard, in my mind, to consider a team that has not won a bowl game in as long as they have and with a 3-9 record this year to be relevant, at least as when it comes to contending in major college football.

They are undoubtedly popular, their fan base is so big that the media attempts to make them relevant even when not deserving, and because of their popularity, it's like the saying goes, you either love em or hate em. (a bucky beaver badge for whoever can guess which camp I fall in)
 
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