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Notre Dame Fighting Irish (official thread of bowl failures)

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kujirakira said:
Notre Dame has a point here. The result of awarding FCS scheduling and weak conference schedules.
After the initial push to see more big OOC games, looks like we're going to contract back to BCS era 'wins against cupcakes are better than risking a loss' scheduling.

Notre Dame will assess scheduling next sesaon after facing late slew of ranked opponents
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There is a 4 year sample size of wildly different selection criteria form the CFP committee to go on.

I'd be real careful about making long term scheduling decisions off of that but hey, what do I know? They are the football masterminds that have kept that program returning to glory since Lou Holtz left.
 
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kujirakira said:
In what way are they not Bama? ND tends to get the breaks when there's any opportunity to give it to them. If they could find any way to get ND in, CFP would go on a Vegas cocaine binge that'd make Manziel blush.
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Exactly why getting angry at our bowl ban that year is meaningless. ND absolutely would have gotten in over us. People outside the Ohio bubble don't really fathom how strong the desire was to see ND in the title game against Alabama that year.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Exactly why getting angry at our bowl ban that year is meaningless. ND absolutely would have gotten in over us. People outside the Ohio bubble don't really fathom how strong the desire was to see ND in the title game against Alabama that year.
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It would’ve been us vs ND, though
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Exactly why getting angry at our bowl ban that year is meaningless. ND absolutely would have gotten in over us. People outside the Ohio bubble don't really fathom how strong the desire was to see ND in the title game against Alabama that year.
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I don't think most people thought we would get in over ND. People thought we would get in over Bama. That tOSU team would have jailsexed ND and their fake dead girlfriends.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
There is a 4 year sample size of wildly different selection criteria form the CFP committee to go on.

I'd be real careful about making long term scheduling decisions off of that but hey, what do I know? They are the football masterminds that have kept that program returning to glory since Lou Holtz left.
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I think it's safe to say having 1 good OOC opponent is helpful. Anything more than that, harmful. Definitely ND's schedule this year was brutal compared to ... well... everyone that made the playoff. I'm not saying they would have gone, but give them Bama's schedule... I bet they go undefeated.
There's something to be said on B1G scheduling too.
- Mandatory OOC game against P5. It'd help the top of the conference a lot if Purdues and Indianas went back to playing MAC schools 3 of 4 years.
I like the mandatory OOC game against P5 on paper... but if nobody else is doing it, just shooting ourselves in the foot.
- 9th Conference game just adds more losses across the conference. If we say everyone played a MAC school and conference went 12-2 vs. 7-7 against itself ... that's a sizeable difference. Don't like this on any level. Especially since other conferences are padding their records. It's the difference between a 4-loss team and a 5-loss team making the Top25 for a "quality win" and it has knockon effects across the board (ie. Wisconsin gets ranked higher because one of their opponents makes Top25... makes us look better beating Wisconsin... etc.)
- Everyone here has talked about the "fluff" November game as a breather before... gets that 12th game as a needed Bye/Practice late in the season.
 
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kujirakira said:
I think it's safe to say having 1 good OOC opponent is helpful. Anything more than that, harmful. Definitely ND's schedule this year was brutal compared to ... well... everyone that made the playoff. I'm not saying they would have gone, but give them Bama's schedule... I bet they go undefeated.
There's something to be said on B1G scheduling too.
- Mandatory OOC game against P5. It'd help the top of the conference a lot if Purdues and Indianas went back to playing MAC schools 3 of 4 years.
I like the mandatory OOC game against P5 on paper... but if nobody else is doing it, just shooting ourselves in the foot.
- 9th Conference game just adds more losses across the conference. If we say everyone played a MAC school and conference went 12-2 vs. 7-7 against itself ... that's a sizeable difference. Don't like this on any level. Especially since other conferences are padding their records. It's the difference between a 4-loss team and a 5-loss team making the Top25 for a "quality win" and it has knockon effects across the board (ie. Wisconsin gets ranked higher because one of their opponents makes Top25... makes us look better beating Wisconsin... etc.)
- Everyone here has talked about the "fluff" November game as a breather before... gets that 12th game as a needed Bye/Practice late in the season.
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All good points but what happens when the CFB says quality wins are more important than a bad loss in order to justify getting one or more SEC teams into the playoff next year?
 
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Jaxbuck said:
All good points but what happens when the CFB says quality wins are more important than a bad loss in order to justify getting one or more SEC teams into the playoff next year?
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i think by now, it’s safe to drop the SEC thing in favor of just Bama.

if their roles had been reversed, i don’t see uga getting in like Bama did.
 
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Nutriaitch said:
i think by now, it’s safe to drop the SEC thing in favor of just Bama.

if their roles had been reversed, i don’t see uga getting in like Bama did.
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fair enough

Macro point being the CFP committee has shown nothing but 4 short years of inconsistency. Not the type of platform to go building a long term scheduling strategy off of imo but what the hell, it's Notre Dame. I hope they do.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
All good points but what happens when the CFB says quality wins are more important than a bad loss in order to justify getting one or more SEC teams into the playoff next year?
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Still have the 1 quality OOC opponent, CCG, and whatever the B1G East has to offer... the 9th conference game inherently devalues our conference opponents compared to ACC and SEC. Having that 12th game be against a MAC school (or FCS for SEC/ACC) for all 14 teams will always give better chance to get another conference opponent into the top-25 than splitting 7-7.
 
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