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NFL says "NO" to church's super bowl party

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I think the biggest problem the NFL has with this is the fact that the church was advertising it as a "Super Bowl" party. I also assume that the church, because of this advertising, was using the NFL to further their "cause". I'm not saying the NFL is "morally" right, just that I see where they are coming from.

Also, I hear ads on the radio for bars inviting folks to the "Big Game" party, not the Super Bowl.

I could be wrong about all of it, however. :biggrin:
 
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BUCKYLE;737195; said:
It's thier product. They have rules. They choose where and when to enforce them. From the rules posted in the first post, the church was violating three.

I'm not saying I agree with the NFL here. But, OTOH, I'm just a little upset at the church for whining about it. WWJD? I doubt he'd whine.
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There are laws against monopolies...the NFL is treading near those laws. While it's "their product", a little bit of common sense should come into play here. They say you can't have a public gathering to watch the Super Bowl (or any other NFL game) if the viewing screen in over 55"...well, they need to take my neighbor to court because he's been having his father-in-law bring his screen projector (about a 70" picture) over for the last 5-6 Super Bowls and is doing so again on Sunday. And everyone is bringing a food dish for others to eat, so it's about the same as charging everyone a fee for food for everyone. I think the church has every right to "whine" about this total bullshit...
 
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MililaniBuckeye;737252; said:
There are laws against monopolies...the NFL is treading near those laws. While it's "their product", a little bit of common sense should come into play here. They say you can't have a public gathering to watch the Super Bowl (or any other NFL game) if the viewing screen in over 55"...well, they need to take my neighbor to court because he's been having his father-in-law bring his screen projector (about a 70" picture) over for the last 5-6 Super Bowls and is doing so again on Sunday. And everyone is bringing a food dish for others to eat, so it's about the same as charging everyone a fee for food for everyone. I think the church has every right to "whine" about this total bullshit...
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My conviction defending the NFL here doesn't run very deep.

I am wondering, I seriously don't know. What do anti-trust laws have to do with the NFL? Do they grant them special privaleges monopoly wise? (If that makes any sense at all)

I just think if the church would not have advertised as a super bowl party, there wouldn't have been a problem.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;737252; said:
There are laws against monopolies...the NFL is treading near those laws. While it's "their product", a little bit of common sense should come into play here. They say you can't have a public gathering to watch the Super Bowl (or any other NFL game) if the viewing screen in over 55"...well, they need to take my neighbor to court because he's been having his father-in-law bring his screen projector (about a 70" picture) over for the last 5-6 Super Bowls and is doing so again on Sunday. And everyone is bringing a food dish for others to eat, so it's about the same as charging everyone a fee for food for everyone. I think the church has every right to "whine" about this total bullshit...
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I could be wrong, but does this have much/anything to do with antitrust laws. They own their product, they can determine what people can and can't do with it.
 
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I think that its not like all of the pro teams are profit powerhouses and this issue is probably a lot more complex than it seems. If the NFL allows a church to run with this promotion, then it probably sets a precedent that would allow sports bars and others to avoid paying license fees. At the same time, it may well be violating agreements with rebroadcast networks or licensed sports bars (or whoever) in which the NFL guaranteed to protect their rights to rebroadcast the game.

I don't know about the USA but every NFL game broadcast in South Africa (and Jay Leno, etc) have a statement about rebroadcast being prohibited, which plays during the intro to the program.

Its like anything else, if we want something, we have to be willing to pay for it. I don't like it anymore than anyone else, but it just is a reality. As the media continues to fragment, get ready to pay big time for everything. Remember the demise of the CBS, NBC, and ABC dominance of television? We're gonna pay big time for what we want to see in the future and if these guys keep pushing up the price, they are gonna kill the goose that lays the golden egg -- sports fans.
 
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bigballin2987;737225; said:
I can't find the link, but there is the episode of Family Guy where Peter is recording MNF and the Feds bust in and ask him if he has the expressed written consent of ABC and Monday Night Football. He only holds up the one from ABC and they proceed to shoot the shit out his VCR.
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There's also the Simpsons episode where people can do anything they want in international waters: "See that ship over there? They're re-broadcasting MLB with implied oral consent, not express written consent -- or so the legend goes..."
 
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Most churches are also violating the fourth disqualification *No exhibition of the game in connection with events "that promote a message."
Many churches are using a half-time "message" instead of viewing NFL commercials, entertainment with "wardrobe malfunctions", and analysis of what we have just seen or heard. The prerecorded messages usually are of athletes who share a specific testimony of their faith. Knowing the worth of commercial sales for the NFL, the halftime advertising is still a financially lucrative market unless large blocks of viewers choose alternatives.
 
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I can't believe they didn't cover Super Bowl Parties in my 2 sememsters of business law. Damn that college education. I think I should sue my college for all of my tuition money!

Seriously, there are a lot of good arguements posted here with some well thought out stances.

In my humble opinion, they do have the legal right to take it away from this church, but it's not the church that looks like the big bully taking the candy away from the baby. It can't be good for their image. They would be wise to openly support Churches and other NPO's to run the game and provide enviroments where people can gather and enjoy the game together outside of smoky and drinking enviroments. It increases viewership and increases the amount they can sell the game rights for.
 
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