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Nebraska Cornhuskers (corn)

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ScriptOhio said:
Here's a really good article listing some of the pros and cons on firing Frost:

The “Should Scott Frost Be Fired?” Report Card: Grading The Arguments For and Against Scott Frost Keeping His Job

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Entire article: https://www.cornnation.com/2021/11/...e-arguments-for-and-against-frost-keeping-his

I do know that Nebraska may never return to their "glory years" due to some conditions that exist today:

1) Nebraska doesn't produce the number of 4 and 5 star recruits necessary to contend for the National Championship every year. They are no longer able to consistently recruit in Texas and haven't established any other areas that would be a replacement.
2) Recruiting is now much more thorough, quality walk ons do not slip through the cracks. There just aren't the number of high quality walk ons that there use to be.
3) Steroids are now illegal and tested for.

Unless something drastically changes I think that the best Corn can hope for is possibly replacing Cheese as the primary contender in the B1G West.

Usually I say you have to give the guy 4 years so he has a change to get his recruits, etc. Well, Frost has had 4 years now and Corn really hasn't shown any improvement in wins/losses. Maybe he has made significant improvements in some of the other areas, i.e. higher GPAs, fewer players arrested, and/or worked with the alumni to get more $$$ donated, etc. I don't know.


https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/scott-frost-fired-nebraska-contract-buyout/

Frost is definitely a "Nebraska Man" and if he can "get the ship righted" he'd be lifer coach at Corn, i.e. like Fitzgerald at NW and Chryst at Cheese, etc. If you don't have an absolute "home run" hire to replace him, (with a $15M buyout) I'll say give him another year or 2. Hey, he did come within 1 score of beating 3 top 10 teams so far this season.

Anyway, Corn's AD is a total asshole and whatever decision he makes will probably just screw it up....:nod:
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Competent QB play will help.
 
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Thump said:
Competent QB play will help.
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The QB is the most important position on any team sport; but I'm not sure that Martinez is the problem. He is the 4th highest B1G QB in "passing efficiency":

5. C.J. Stroud
30. Payton Thorne
41. Taulia Tagovailoa
42. Adrian Martinez
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/individual/8

According to 24/7 they are not getting enough recruits that will make them contenders for a B1G champion every year; but (at least) should make them a top 25 team, with a winning record, that goes to a decent bowl, etc. Here's 24/7's ranking of Corn's recruiting classes the last 4 years:

2018: #23
2019: #17
2020: #20
2021: #21

Maybe they aren't 1) targeting the right players in their recruitment process that best fits their system and/or 2) developing and/or utilizing the players that they have to their maximum potential. If that's the case, Frost should take a serious look at who he has as his assistants and take the appropriate action.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
Here's a really good article listing some of the pros and cons on firing Frost:

The “Should Scott Frost Be Fired?” Report Card: Grading The Arguments For and Against Scott Frost Keeping His Job

1350691091.0.jpg


Entire article: https://www.cornnation.com/2021/11/...e-arguments-for-and-against-frost-keeping-his

I do know that Nebraska may never return to their "glory years" due to some conditions that exist today:

1) Nebraska doesn't produce the number of 4 and 5 star recruits necessary to contend for the National Championship every year. They are no longer able to consistently recruit in Texas and haven't established any other areas that would be a replacement.
2) Recruiting is now much more thorough, quality walk ons do not slip through the cracks. There just aren't the number of high quality walk ons that there use to be.
3) Steroids are now illegal and tested for.

Unless something drastically changes I think that the best Corn can hope for is possibly replacing Cheese as the primary contender in the B1G West.

Usually I say you have to give the guy 4 years so he has a change to get his recruits, etc. Well, Frost has had 4 years now and Corn really hasn't shown any improvement in wins/losses. Maybe he has made significant improvements in some of the other areas, i.e. higher GPAs, fewer players arrested, and/or worked with the alumni to get more $$$ donated, etc. I don't know.


https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/scott-frost-fired-nebraska-contract-buyout/

Frost is definitely a "Nebraska Man" and if he can "get the ship righted" he'd be lifer coach at Corn, i.e. like Fitzgerald at NW and Chryst at Cheese, etc. If you don't have an absolute "home run" hire to replace him, (with a $15M buyout) I'll say give him another year or 2. Hey, he did come within 1 score of beating 3 top 10 teams so far this season.

Anyway, Corn's AD is a total asshole and whatever decision he makes will probably just screw it up....:nod:
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The record may not be indicative of much improvement, but they have definitely been more competitive this season the the past few. The question they have to ask is, can Frost get them to the same level as Iowa and Wiscy. Hell, even the Varmints is a step up right now. That's a decision Trev Albert's ( :lol: ) has to make. That's a hefty buyout. If they want a good coach to come to Corn land, they're gonna have to pay up...probably higher than some other places due to the limitations they face as a program, because it just isn't an attractive job anymore. Is there even anybody out there willing to come here that would be a significant upgrade over Frost? Because that's what they would need, a SIGNIFICANT upgrade if they're gonna pay the new coach and have all of that dead money they're paying Frost.

The other option is to take the fact that they've at least been competitive this year, look at it as a step in the right direction and hope that they're close to turning the corner under Frost. Given the pervasive attitude around here, I think that's gonna be hard to do. The fanbase is heavily in favor of moving on. Where they think they go from here, I don't know.
 
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Woody1968 said:
They really need to focus on building their program. Switching coaches every few years is just going to ensure that they never rise above average.
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They made a grave error hiring "nice guy" Mike Riley after they fired Grinch Bo. That set them behind the eight ball. Frost has been objectively bad, but he did have a mess to clean up. They've shown flashes of improvement at times, but then they either shit themselves (last season) or can't quite grab the brass ring (this season). I honestly think the best thing is to give Frost one more year to see if he can get over the hump next year after playing several really good teams closely this season, but I don't know if the fanbase can deal with that.

Honestly, for the most part, they're pretty realistic about what they are in today's CFB world. I don't think many expect a return to the 90s and before. I think most just believe there's no reason they shouldn't be as good as Wiscy, or at least Iowa, consistently; and they're probably not wrong. But yeah, they gotta pick a guy and stick with him. Frost was widely praised as a "home run" when they hired him. They fire him now, they better hope they hit it out of the park because at this point, you're basically a revolving door of failure.
 
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