NCAA09 PS3 BP Online Dynasty

[Basebuck]

Yes you won the coin toss, but that kinda becomes null and void since you didn't create Texas A&M. Of course if you create Texas A&M then you would have your spot, and if buckeyemania then chooses to create Colorado then the coin toss becomes valid again.

I'll work on creating this weekend

 

[buckeyemania11]

Yes you won the coin toss, but that kinda becomes null and void since you didn't create Texas A&M. Of course if you create Texas A&M then you would have your spot, and if buckeyemania then chooses to create Colorado then the coin toss becomes valid again.

im pretty much sure I want to start over with a new team, Colorado was pretty much awful in the last season

 

[Piney]

It looks like they went with grade ratings across the board. All recruiting attributes have been changed from Elite to Poor, to grade ratings (A+ through F).

Of course, that's how the TB site was setting recruiting ratings, but now we know for sure that they changed it.

Yeah, I don't mind the grade ranking for recruiting attributes. But I do hate the new recruiting screens. Before you can at least see all of the recruits individual ratings sucks as now you have to scroll to see them all. That freaking bar graph thing is already annoying.

I'll work on creating this weekend

So I guess you noticed that Texas A&M would be rated too high and wouldn't be eligible for the re-draft

im pretty much sure I want to start over with a new team, Colorado was pretty much awful in the last season

Yeah, I knew that. But just giving an example. And with basebuck creating Texas A&M, the Big 12 would be considered 'closed' and any Big 12 team picked in the draft would have to be moved to another conference. (FYI, not sure if you would pick Colorado again, but they are rated a 'C')

 

[Basebuck]

So I guess you noticed that Texas A&M would be rated too high and wouldn't be eligible for the re-draft [/quote]

I caught that

Yeah, I knew that. But just giving an example. And with basebuck creating Texas A&M, the Big 12 would be considered 'closed' and any Big 12 team picked in the draft would have to be moved to another conference. (FYI, not sure if you would pick Colorado again, but they are rated a 'C')

Do I stay in the south and Okie St. moves to the north?

 

[Piney]

I caught that


Do I stay in the south and Okie St. moves to the north?

Hmmm, good question. But that might mean you guys play twice in a season. Plus I am sure wood would want to make sure he plays Oklahoma every year since that is his big rival. And moving to the North division might mean he misses them.

 

[IronBuckI]

Hmmm, good question. But that might mean you guys play twice in a season. Plus I am sure wood would want to make sure he plays Oklahoma every year since that is his big rival. And moving to the North division might mean he misses them.

I played around with rivals before I left for work, and wasn't able to post until now. Any created team that you insert into the game takes on all of the rivals of that team until you move them. Then it gets crazy.

Moving oSu to the Big 12 North or anywhere else will cause WOOD to lose his rivalry with OU, but he'll get the top rival of the team he replaces. The scenario that I ran for oSu was this: Replace the real oSu with WOODs TB team. Then move oSu to the SEC West, and move Arkansas to the Big 12 South. oSu has a new rival in LSU, but loses the OU rivalry. Arkansas keeps all of their other rivalry games.

Army is a different/worse case. Army has Air Force and Navy as rivals. If you just replace Army with Olafs TB team, and keep him independent, then he will keep AF and Army as his rivals. The scenario I ran for Army is this: Replace the real Army with Olafs Army team. Move Olafs team to the Big Ten in place of Ohio State. Army's only rival in now Ohio States top rival...Michigan, of course. Ohio State is now an independent and keeps Michigan, Illinois, and Penn State as rivals.

All "real" teams, i.e. non-created teams maintain all of their current rivalries, and in some case, pick up the top rival of the team that they replaced when they moved.

Weird, but true.

 

[Piney]

I played around with rivals before I left for work, and wasn't able to post until now. Any created team that you insert into the game takes on all of the rivals of that team until you move them. Then it gets crazy.

Moving oSu to the Big 12 North or anywhere else will cause WOOD to lose his rivalry with OU, but he'll get the top rival of the team he replaces. The scenario that I ran for oSu was this: Replace the real oSu with WOODs TB team. Then move oSu to the SEC West, and move Arkansas to the Big 12 South. oSu has a new rival in LSU, but loses the OU rivalry. Arkansas keeps all of their other rivalry games.

Army is a different/worse case. Army has Air Force and Navy as rivals. If you just replace Army with Olafs TB team, and keep him independent, then he will keep AF and Army as his rivals. The scenario I ran for Army is this: Replace the real Army with Olafs Army team. Move Olafs team to the Big Ten in place of Ohio State. Army's only rival in now Ohio States top rival...Michigan, of course. Ohio State is now an independent and keeps Michigan, Illinois, and Penn State as rivals.

All "real" teams, i.e. non-created teams maintain all of their current rivalries, and in some case, pick up the top rival of the team that they replaced when they moved.

Weird, but true.

Now that is weird... but can almost see how it happens.

So how this affects our league is simple. If I don't move Okie St & Texas A&M they will be fine with the TB teams.

BUT in the case of BYU & Army it will really screw up their true rivals? Which might actually help them better. Cuz if we go with a more heavy human v human non-conference schedule like we did at the end of the '09 dynasty, this way they at least have some rivals in their new conference.

Now what will be interesting is for the guys that take non-bcs teams. So let's say I take Ohio and move them to the Big Ten replacing Indiana. Instead of picking up Indiana's rivalries, since I am a default team I keep Ohio's rivals. And if I play 4 human non-conference games this means I won't ever play a rival game?

 

[IronBuckI]

Now that is weird... but can almost see how it happens.

So how this affects our league is simple. If I don't move Okie St & Texas A&M they will be fine with the TB teams.

BUT in the case of BYU & Army it will really screw up their true rivals? Which might actually help them better. Cuz if we go with a more heavy human v human non-conference schedule like we did at the end of the '09 dynasty, this way they at least have some rivals in their new conference.

Now what will be interesting is for the guys that take non-bcs teams. So let's say I take Ohio and move them to the Big Ten replacing Indiana. Instead of picking up Indiana's rivalries, since I am a default team I keep Ohio's rivals. And if I play 4 human non-conference games this means I won't ever play a rival game?

It won't screw up BYU too bad because they only have one rival anyway (Utah). They'll end up with whatever rival you give to them. Switch BYU with Wazzou, and Washington becomes their rival.

I don't know for sure about Ohio, but moving USC to the Big East in place of Pitt, resulted in USC being rivals with WVU, Notre Dame, and one other team. I don't think that the "one other team" was UCLA, because Olafs UCLA only has one rival, and that's Pitt.

 

[fanaticbuckeye]

It won't screw up BYU too bad because they only have one rival anyway (Utah). They'll end up with whatever rival you give to them. Switch BYU with Wazzou, and Washington becomes their rival.

SDSU was a rivalry game as well. So every year I had a home rivalry game. With only one rival, you will have years with no home rivalry/recruiting game...

 

[Piney]

It won't screw up BYU too bad because they only have one rival anyway (Utah). They'll end up with whatever rival you give to them. Switch BYU with Wazzou, and Washington becomes their rival.

Actually Washington St had 2 rivalries. I know this cuz Oregon was the 2nd rival. No idea why though.

 

[fanaticbuckeye]

Actually Washington St had 2 rivalries. I know this cuz Oregon was the 2nd rival. No idea why though.

But I'll only gain the top rival of WSU, right.

 

[IronBuckI]

SDSU was a rivalry game as well. So every year I had a home rivalry game. With only one rival, you will have years with no home rivalry/recruiting game...

Then one of two things happened this year.

1. EA decided that SDSU wasn't really a rivalry anymore, and BYU only has Utah as a rivalry
2. I misread how Olafs stuff worked, and TB teams ONLY get the top rival of the team they replace, regardless of whether you move them or not.

 

[Piney]

Iron, the TB team gets all of the rivals for the team they are swapped in for?

I wonder if I can put in a TB team and have them cpu controlled? What I might do then is swap fanatic's TB team with Washington St. Basically killing Washington St off (will anyone really miss them?). Then swap in a TB team from another source to replace BYU (like if I can find someone that created Montana St or something)

Just a crazy thought. But we got time to run some more test dynasties to see what happens.

 

[Basebuck]

So to summarize....

Okie St. and AtM are staying in the same division?

 

[IronBuckI]

Iron, the TB team gets all of the rivals for the team they are swapped in for?

I wonder if I can put in a TB team and have them cpu controlled? What I might do then is swap fanatic's TB team with Washington St. Basically killing Washington St off (will anyone really miss them?). Then swap in a TB team from another source to replace BYU (like if I can find someone that created Montana St or something)

Just a crazy thought. But we got time to run some more test dynasties to see what happens.

Nope, just the top rival. When I swapped Army for Ohio State, Army lost AF and Navy and ended up with just Michigan.

You can have a TB team be computer controlled. That's how I did some of my sims.

I also tried putting Olafs TB Army in directly as tOSU, then bringing tOSU back in in place of the real Army, without ever touching the conferences...same result as before. That's what makes me think that I misread that Olafs Army team would be able to keep AF and Navy if he stayed independent. The more I think about it. I think that all TBs will only get one rival of the team that they replace. Like you said. We've got time to play around with this and find out exactly what is going on.