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NCAA - slowly ruining football (rules changes - merged)

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Oh good. Kansas-Toledo is going to OT. Now I'll get to hear the OT rules and I'll get to hear about how the new clock rules kept Kansas from running a couple more meaningless draw plays to get to OT. :roll2:
 
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New rules tick off coaches

Tressel is no fan of changes that shorten games

Friday, October 06, 2006 Doug Lesmerises

Plain Dealer Reporter
Columbus- There are two changes in college football that most coaches hate this season. By happenstance, the two might cancel each other out, though that wasn't the plan. By next season though, one problem might be fixed.
The issues are the addition of a 12th game and the changes in the clock rules that have shortened games and decreased the number of plays. Ohio State, for instance, has had 42 fewer plays through five games this year compared to last year.
When the NCAA approved a 12th game starting this season, Bowling Green was plugged into OSU's schedule. The Buckeyes were originally scheduled off this week.
While Ohio State coach Jim Tressel is a fan of neither the new game nor the clock changes, he's made a point of linking the two, mentioning that fewer plays each game might decrease the risk of injuries, which otherwise might have increased with an added game.
"There was some discussion by a lot of [coaches] that you start adding another game to the those guys' bodies, is that going to make an impact on them?" Tressel said.
It's a nice idea: the money of the 12th game balanced by shorter games out of concern for the player. But it's not true.
NCAA spokeswoman Crissy Schluep said Thursday that while the well being of student-athletes is always considered, when the NCAA Football Rules Committee changed the clock rules, safety "was not a determining factor for this specific rules change."
So what can these angry coaches do? About the 12th game, nothing.
"From the very beginning, we were very adamantly against a 12th game," said Grant Teaff, executive director of the American Football Coaches Association. "The reason we lost that battle was purely, without a question, financial."
But the clock is a different situation. Teaff said the AFCA is gathering data about every aspect of the clock change - the number of fewer plays, the length of TV timeouts, injury numbers - and will use those to make its case. Teaff expects a vote of the coaches at the AFCA January convention, which he assumes will be to reverse the clock changes. Then, he expects the Rules Committee, composed of 12 coaches and athletic directors, to pay attention to that vote.
"They've always listened to the coaches," Teaff said. "I believe we can get the rule either changed or eliminated, but it will be because the NCAA Rules Committee always listens."
That would put the action at an all-time high next season, with the number of plays increasing and teams playing either 12, 13 or 14 games, depending on conference championships and bowl games. Will coaches have to ease up on their players as a result?
Ohio State has already lightened the load this year. The Buckeyes work out in full pads only on Tuesday after the first week of the season. In previous years, the Buckeyes would go in full pads two days each week through the first part of the season. But Tressel downplayed that, and said he hasn't made any adjustments for the missing bye week, maybe just for the evolving world of college football.
"When you have 12 games compared to nine or 10 when I started, it's a different world," Tressel said. "We used to only have five, six plays, so what could you do [in practice] other than beat each other up?"
Now there's plenty of time for other teams to do that, and next season there should be even more.
To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:
[email protected], 216-999-4479
 
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I still don't understand the concept. Football makes people money. ABC, NBC, CBS, ESPN, etc. make money from advertisements. The NCAA and the schools (and maybe the conferences) make money from ABC, ESPN, etc.

Everybody was happy for many years. And then teams started throwing the ball more. Incompletions force the clock to stop, so games with more passing take longer. It became harder and harder to keep games within the scheduled time slots.

So, rather than increase the length of the time-slots, and decrease the time given to info-mercials some of those channels will show when they don't have football, they'd rather decrease the number of plays per game. So they take a powerful money-making machine that is college football, and they weaken it, forcing them to make LESS money than before, rather than try to milk as much money from it as they can.

Am I missing something?
 
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I have a real easy solution if they want to shorten games....

decrease the number of commercials....If they eliminate as little as 2 commercial breaks, they can save between 4 and 6 minutes right there....
 
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They'll bring back leather helmets before they give up any commercial time! Recognize the game for what it truly is at the D-1 level: a REVENUE sport that, together with men's basketball at most schools, carries the burden of financially supporting the school's entire athletic budget. Cut the commercials and you'll also have to decide which other sport(s) to cut from the program.
 
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Good read, personally, I really didn't notice that huge of a change. Then again, I think we only played one game where I was concerned with the clock, maybe a little with Zooks boys, but not really.

The changes did not sit well with coaches. After Texas lost to Ohio State 24-7 on Sept. 9, Longhorns coach Mack Brown was vocal in his dislike of the change. "They scored with six minutes left and the game was over before we had a chance to do anything," Brown said after the game. "I really hope whoever made these changes will go back and look them over."
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I see what he's trying to say here, but the OSU game isn't his best example. Perhaps he could have used the K-State game where the score was closer.

I have never personally had a problem with the length of a football game, I will say it does get annoying when someone is doing a 2 minute offense and actually stopping the clock every play, that can extend that 2 minutes to a time that severely pisses off the woman.

Really, I think they should remove the rule that stops the clock for the chains to be moved and speed the games up even more.
 
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Did anyone watch Wisconsin-Penn State this year? Bielema made a complete mockery of the rule. Wisconsin scored near the end of the first half, then ran the last 12-15 seconds off the clock by sending all their guys offside and kicking the ball over and over til the time was gone. I guarantee the NCAA rules guys will make some change to this rule, probably the one that's been mentioned where the rule won't apply during the last two minutes of a half.
 
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HailToMichigan;722539; said:
Did anyone watch Wisconsin-Penn State this year? Bielema made a complete mockery of the rule. Wisconsin scored near the end of the first half, then ran the last 12-15 seconds off the clock by sending all their guys offside and kicking the ball over and over til the time was gone.
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Yes
 
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HailToMichigan;722539; said:
Did anyone watch Wisconsin-Penn State this year? Bielema made a complete mockery of the rule. Wisconsin scored near the end of the first half, then ran the last 12-15 seconds off the clock by sending all their guys offside and kicking the ball over and over til the time was gone. I guarantee the NCAA rules guys will make some change to this rule, probably the one that's been mentioned where the rule won't apply during the last two minutes of a half.
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Yeah, I remember that. I was watching thinking how stupid it was, but there's a simple rule in life, people will always find ways to abuse any situation. They are on the right track with trying to speed the games up, and they will need to do some fine tuning, however, at least it's a start.

One thing that's not helping their cause is the replay rules, seems like the games are going to get back to where they were with every 10th play being reviewed.
 
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After a season of dealing with the new clock rules, I don't like them at all. It gives you less of the game, and more of a percentage of the time you're just watching commercials. 15 minutes is not that big of a deal to save anyone from doing something else. If you are going to commit to a 3 hour+ game, then give the people what they want.
 
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OCBucksFan said:
Yeah, I remember that. I was watching thinking how stupid it was, but there's a simple rule in life, people will always find ways to abuse any situation. They are on the right track with trying to speed the games up, and they will need to do some fine tuning, however, at least it's a start.

One thing that's not helping their cause is the replay rules, seems like the games are going to get back to where they were with every 10th play being reviewed.
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Why is speeding the games up a good thing? They're only doing it so they can cram more commercials in.
 
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Its all a conspiracy to get more commercials, then why did they shorten half time too?

The kicking change of possesions with a running clock thing needs to be revoked. Start the play clock but not the game clock, that will speed up how long it takes to come off the bench (the longest part really) they gain what, 5 seconds in game time maybe in 10 different instances-so they are gaining 1 minute in lost game time. To shorten the game time they should hurry up the use of play clock. If the clock ran immediatly at the start of a play then there would be no more lollygagging off the bench, then getting in the play calling, it would be more hussled and shorten the commercials. We used to lose like 3 minutes for the long ass comm. break into the official placing the ball, the teams switching O and D. Punt, catch, place ball, run play clock!
 
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