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Who says it has to be contingent on him being drafted? What would the monthly payment be? A little over 100 bucks? I'm sure he could afford that... His parents probably give him money on a regular basis.
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Well, it doesn't matter to me if this is Jarrett at USC or anyone else, I think this outcome is unjust.
With all of the education and monitoring that goes into compliance these days, somebody at USC should have known about this problem and it is unfair that he has received this benefit without any real penalty.
It seems to me that a college football program should know the answers to a very simple set of questions, for each and every one of its players, on a monthly basis. A minimum standard of compliance monitoring would comprise the following, in my opinion:
With all of the education and monitoring that goes into compliance these days, somebody at USC should have known about this problem and it is unfair that he has received this benefit without any real penalty.
It seems to me that a college football program should know the answers to a very simple set of questions, for each and every one of its players, on a monthly basis. A minimum standard of compliance monitoring would comprise the following, in my opinion:
- Where are you living?
- What is the total cost of accommodation and food?
- Does anyone else subsidize your payment in any way, such as a reduced share of the total expense? If so, who and by how much?
- Were you entertained by anyone during this month (meals, tickets to events, a list of things could be provided)?
- Does any member of your family receive any benefits from any source that has formal or informal links to a sports agency or professional football organization?
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I fully understand. I was house hunting the other day and my realtor showed me two houses - one listed at $750,000 and the other t $150,000. When I got home and started discussing them with my wife darned if we couldn't remember which was which.
LA or no, can you imagine what an apartment costing $3500 per month must look like? Teenager or no, how can you not know that you were getting a little something extra?
LA or no, can you imagine what an apartment costing $3500 per month must look like? Teenager or no, how can you not know that you were getting a little something extra?
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fourteenandoh
My swing feels like an unfolding lawn chair.
3500 in downtown LA is probably a little better than average, but not much. Also, it is extremely against NCAA rules to take a loan out on future professional earnings. However 5g's isn't that much and anybody should be able to get that loan no matter what. Hell, he could walk on campus sign up for a Visa and get 5g's
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scooter1369
HTTR Forever.
Its USC. Its all good and shit.
Personally, I think Jarett should be forced to repay every penny before sniffing the field.
But the NCAA is nothing if not hypocritical and unfair:
Jeff Smhodehfjjjjauhrvaaa: $250,000 dollar signing bonus to play for the Cubs
NCAA eligibility: Intact
Zibowski: Professional boxer receiving pay
NCAA eligibility: Intact
Jeremy Bloom: US Olympic and pro Skier
NCAA eligibility: REVOKED
Troy Smith: $500 cash
NCAA eligibility: 2 game suspension. Must repay 100%
Dwayne Jarrett: a years worth of rent money in excess of $12k
NCAA eligibility: Intact after repaying roughly 40% to charity. Zero games missed.
Personally, I think Jarett should be forced to repay every penny before sniffing the field.
But the NCAA is nothing if not hypocritical and unfair:
Jeff Smhodehfjjjjauhrvaaa: $250,000 dollar signing bonus to play for the Cubs
NCAA eligibility: Intact
Zibowski: Professional boxer receiving pay
NCAA eligibility: Intact
Jeremy Bloom: US Olympic and pro Skier
NCAA eligibility: REVOKED
Troy Smith: $500 cash
NCAA eligibility: 2 game suspension. Must repay 100%
Dwayne Jarrett: a years worth of rent money in excess of $12k
NCAA eligibility: Intact after repaying roughly 40% to charity. Zero games missed.
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greyscarlet
Heisman
I'm fed up with the NCAA and it was well before this incident. They need to either set up black and white violations and punishments and/or make these hearings public to put some pressure on the "judges."
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buckalum01
They Call Me Assassin
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2544904
Eligibility was granted to a Tulsa transfer who played last year at Arkansas. It may be the completely correct thing to do (I don't know all of the circumstances), but seemingly goes against previous protocol.
This is slightly off-topic, but it is just another example of the NCAA being hard to get a read on what decisions they make. They have set rules, but enforcement and penalties are such fly-by-night procedures that what they do is anybody's guess.
The major problems I have with the NCAA are its lack of transparency, its lack of equitable enforcement, and its complete lack of logic or common-sense that they employ to make its decisions. It seems less and less that they are a viable, useful institution and more and more that they an organisation that not only answers to nobody, but also an organisation that acts arbitrarily in many of its decisions.
Eligibility was granted to a Tulsa transfer who played last year at Arkansas. It may be the completely correct thing to do (I don't know all of the circumstances), but seemingly goes against previous protocol.
This is slightly off-topic, but it is just another example of the NCAA being hard to get a read on what decisions they make. They have set rules, but enforcement and penalties are such fly-by-night procedures that what they do is anybody's guess.
The major problems I have with the NCAA are its lack of transparency, its lack of equitable enforcement, and its complete lack of logic or common-sense that they employ to make its decisions. It seems less and less that they are a viable, useful institution and more and more that they an organisation that not only answers to nobody, but also an organisation that acts arbitrarily in many of its decisions.
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I'm also surprised that USC apparently is getting no penalty for this. They have a responsibility to educate boosters and monitor compliance. I believe it's accurate to classify Leinart's father as a booster.
Who would need to be cautioned about eligibility issues more than a Heisman trophy winner (Matt won it before moving into this place with Jarrett) and his father? Especially when he was considering the draft in early 2005 and had to be careful to retain his eligibility.
Here are excerpts from what LSU sends their boosters (tOSU has something similar, I've received it as an alumnus). If USC has something similar (and it's only reasonable to expect them to have it, if not they're being negligent), how could Mr. Leinart not have questioned whether what he was doing was OK for Jarrett?
lsu.ncaa_rules
Louisiana State University, as a member of the Southeastern Conference and the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), is responsible for ensuring that its coaches, student-athletes, faculty and staff, donors, boosters, former students, fans, and friends abide by Southeastern Conference and NCAA regulations.
This brochure is a quick reference to the many NCAA rules that apply to our former students, fans and friends of the University. Since all applicable situations cannot be covered in this pamphlet, please feel free to call if you have any questions. The University appreciates your interest and support but reminds you that an inappropriate contact or an inadvertent action on your part can jeopardize the eligibility of a prospective student-athlete, an enrolled student-athlete, and the University.
Who would need to be cautioned about eligibility issues more than a Heisman trophy winner (Matt won it before moving into this place with Jarrett) and his father? Especially when he was considering the draft in early 2005 and had to be careful to retain his eligibility.
Here are excerpts from what LSU sends their boosters (tOSU has something similar, I've received it as an alumnus). If USC has something similar (and it's only reasonable to expect them to have it, if not they're being negligent), how could Mr. Leinart not have questioned whether what he was doing was OK for Jarrett?
lsu.ncaa_rules
Louisiana State University, as a member of the Southeastern Conference and the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), is responsible for ensuring that its coaches, student-athletes, faculty and staff, donors, boosters, former students, fans, and friends abide by Southeastern Conference and NCAA regulations.
This brochure is a quick reference to the many NCAA rules that apply to our former students, fans and friends of the University. Since all applicable situations cannot be covered in this pamphlet, please feel free to call if you have any questions. The University appreciates your interest and support but reminds you that an inappropriate contact or an inadvertent action on your part can jeopardize the eligibility of a prospective student-athlete, an enrolled student-athlete, and the University.
Q. What are some examples of benefits an athletic representative may not provide to student-athletes, their relatives, or friends?
A. Types of extra benefits that are prohibited include, but are not limited to the following: cash or loans; special discounts or payment arrangements on loans; employment of relatives or friends of a student-athlete; involvement in arrangement for free or reduced charges for professional or personal services, purchases, or charges; use of an automobile; providing transportation to or from a summer job or to any other site; signing or co- signing a note for a loan; the loan or gift of money or other tangible items (e.g., clothes, cars, jewelry, electronic/stereo equipment); gifts or awards of any kind; guarantees of bond; purchases of items or services from a student-athlete or the student-athlete's family at inflated prices; providing directly or indirectly transportation to enroll in classes; any financial aid other than that administered by Louisiana State University; the promise of financial aid for post graduate education; free or reduced cost housing arrangements; arrangement for or payment of transportation or other costs incurred by relatives or friends of a student-athlete to visit the student-athlete or to attend any contest; entertainment of a student-athlete's family on or off campus; benefits connected with on or off campus housing (e.g., television sets or stereo equipment, specialized recreational facilities); tickets or admission to an athletic, institutional or community event; educational expenses (e.g., typing costs, course supplies, use of a copy machine); payment of any registration fees (e.g., tuition and fees, summer camps, etc.); payment to a student-athlete for use of his/her complimentary admissions; or receipt of payment for complimentary admissions sold to a third party when designated as the recipient of a complimentary admission by a student-athlete; use of or pay for long distance telephone calls, or the purchase of athletic apparel or awards from a student-athlete.
A. Types of extra benefits that are prohibited include, but are not limited to the following: cash or loans; special discounts or payment arrangements on loans; employment of relatives or friends of a student-athlete; involvement in arrangement for free or reduced charges for professional or personal services, purchases, or charges; use of an automobile; providing transportation to or from a summer job or to any other site; signing or co- signing a note for a loan; the loan or gift of money or other tangible items (e.g., clothes, cars, jewelry, electronic/stereo equipment); gifts or awards of any kind; guarantees of bond; purchases of items or services from a student-athlete or the student-athlete's family at inflated prices; providing directly or indirectly transportation to enroll in classes; any financial aid other than that administered by Louisiana State University; the promise of financial aid for post graduate education; free or reduced cost housing arrangements; arrangement for or payment of transportation or other costs incurred by relatives or friends of a student-athlete to visit the student-athlete or to attend any contest; entertainment of a student-athlete's family on or off campus; benefits connected with on or off campus housing (e.g., television sets or stereo equipment, specialized recreational facilities); tickets or admission to an athletic, institutional or community event; educational expenses (e.g., typing costs, course supplies, use of a copy machine); payment of any registration fees (e.g., tuition and fees, summer camps, etc.); payment to a student-athlete for use of his/her complimentary admissions; or receipt of payment for complimentary admissions sold to a third party when designated as the recipient of a complimentary admission by a student-athlete; use of or pay for long distance telephone calls, or the purchase of athletic apparel or awards from a student-athlete.
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scooter1369
HTTR Forever.
He's an Oklahoma native, so this could be a hardship transfer due to illness or at home or a need to have him close to home to help care for his younger siblings.
Even the military bends in those situations on occasion.
Even the military bends in those situations on occasion.
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scooter1369
HTTR Forever.
Just proves the NCAA is willing to ignore transgressions by their favorite programs and mercilessly attack the ones it chooses to.
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buckalum01
They Call Me Assassin
Like I said, it may be the completely correct move to make for NCAA... BUT they are so secretive and closed off that we really never have any clue as to why they do what they do. Its almost like they just do whatever they want and know they don't ever have to explain anything to anybody. Transparency is a good thing. Unfortunately, it is something the NCAA views as a bad thing.
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