NCAA Instant Replay Discussion

[tedginn05]

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — The NCAA will give college football coaches at least one replay challenge per game and require conferences to use a universal review format if changes recommended yesterday by the rules committee are approved in March.

The announcement was made at the conclusion of the committee’s three-day meeting.

The Big Ten began experimenting with using replay to review calls on the field in 2004. Last season, 11 Division I-A conferences used it, but rules varied.

For instance, the Mountain West Conference was the only league that permitted coaches challenges. Of the 35 plays challenged, only five were overturned.

"That may not sound like a lot, but if you have five plays that could change the game if not corrected, that is a pretty strong percentage," said Charles Broyles, chairman of the committee and coach at Pittsburg State. "We thought that providing a coach’s challenge would act as an additional safety net and give the coaches more involvement in the process."

The committee did not make the broadest possible change — requiring replay. Still, Halpin said he expected all Division IA conferences to use it next season, and TV monitors will still not be allowed in coaching booths. The rules would apply to all three NCAA divisions.

The playing rules oversight panel must has to consider the recommendations.

Another change would remove the option of allowing the visiting team to determine whether replay will be used in nonconference games. Last year, Southern California opted not to have replay when it played at Notre Dame.

The committee also made several recommendations to shorten games If approved, halftime would be shortened from 20 to 15 minutes and the game clock would start when the ball is kicked — not when it is touched by the receiving team.

The committee also recommended starting the game clock on a change of possession when the ball is ready for play.

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I'm not really sold on the new timing rules on the table. Especially the one where the clock starts on a change of possession

 

[JXC]

20 to 15 minute halftimes - - NO
Clock starts when ball is kicked - - NO
Clock starts when ball is ready for play on change of possession - YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!


Want to make games shorts...tell ABC to take less TV time outs. Oh wait...money talks. Okay well then let's just have the games take 4 hours then...WHO CARES! The game are long, so what?

The longer the game the better...I love sitting in the Shoe. I love college football. The game could last 9 hours and i'd still love every second of it. OH NO...during a time out or a longer halftime I've got to sit there and listen to the best damn band in the land. Whoa is me!

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Shorten halftime from 20 to 15 minutes: Good for fans, not good for players/coaches.
Game clock starts when ball is kicked: Agree...makes sense.
Game clock starts when ball is ready for play on change of possession: Not really for or against it.

 

[NFBuck]

Only disagree with the shorter halftime, though can't see it being a huge difference maker.

 

[IronBuckI]

Not sure why they wouldn't just keep the clock running on first downs. During the normal course of the game the offense doesn't break the huddle until after the chains are set anyway. During the hurry up, the chain gang needs to bust ass to get set before the offense is lined up. Think about how much time that would save.

 

[strohs]

Want to make games shorts...tell ABC to take less TV time outs. Oh wait...money talks. Okay well then let's just have the games take 4 hours then...WHO CARES! The game are long, so what?

If they really want to shorten the game, there are two things that they should do:
Adopt the NFL rules on not stopping the game clock on 1st downs, and the 40 sec clock.

 

[JXC]

Another thing they could do is except for the end of the halfs, have the gamecock start when the ball is ready after a play is run out of bounds like the NFL does as well.

But I am not for shortening the game.

 

[NFBuck]

Another thing they could do is except for the end of the halfs, have the gamecock start when the ball is ready after a play is run out of bounds like the NFL does as well.

But I am not for shortening the game.

Guess this only applies to South Carolina games.

 

[sandgk]

I'm glad the committee did not recommend adopting a coaches challenge.

20 minute halves to 15 - bad, going to a game it leaves damned little time to get a snack, stretch the legs and let nature take its course.

As for watching at home or in a bar, too little time for a break, plus I like seeing the other games highlights.

The kicking rule / possession time changes seem cockeyed to me. How much time is really being saved with this? As JXC states - the lengthening of the games largely derives from TV time-outs.

Next they will be taking away the game clock stopping on gaining first downs - which makes the end of college halves tactically interesting.

 

[tedginn05]

I'm glad the committee did not recommend adopting a coaches challenge.

20 minute halves to 15 - bad, going to a game it leaves damned little time to get a snack, stretch the legs and let nature take its course.

As for watching at home or in a bar, too little time for a break, plus I like seeing the other games highlights.

The kicking rule / possession time changes seem cockeyed to me. How much time is really being saved with this? As JXC states - the lengthening of the games largely derives from TV time-outs.

Next they will be taking away the game clock stopping on gaining first downs - which makes the end of college halves tactically interesting.

Umm...They did.

Thats what the whole article is basically about. They are going to have a universal system throughout college football and give coaches at least 1 challenge.

 

[chuckddd]

If they really want to shorten the game, there are two things that they should do:
Adopt the NFL rules on not stopping the game clock on 1st downs, and the 40 sec clock.

This is the best NFL game speeder upper rule:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]With the exception of the last two minutes of the first half and the last five minutes of the second half, the game clock will be restarted following a kickoff return, a player going out of bounds on a play from scrimmage, or after declined penalties when appropriate on the referee's signal.

Basically, it makes for less plays in a game. I remember being freaked out when they instituted the rule a few years ago, but it's really seamless.
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[JXC]

This is the best NFL game speeder upper rule:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]With the exception of the last two minutes of the first half and the last five minutes of the second half, the game clock will be restarted following a kickoff return, a player going out of bounds on a play from scrimmage, or after declined penalties when appropriate on the referee's signal.

Basically, it makes for less plays in a game. I remember being freaked out when they instituted the rule a few years ago, but it's really seamless.
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Long games = more time for TBDBITL to play...so I want long games!

 

[sandgk]

Umm...They did.

Thats what the whole article is basically about. They are going to have a universal system throughout college football and give coaches at least 1 challenge.

Well damn misread - that is completely daft. A coaches challenge would help little in my view. One of the beauties of the college system which all except the MWC adopted was how it worked in a seamless fashion. The only glaring example of it breaking down was with a poorly tutored group of zebras in the Alamo Bowl.

 

[IronBuckI]

Well damn misread - that is completely daft. A coaches challenge would help little in my view. One of the beauties of the college system which all except the MWC adopted was how it worked in a seamless fashion. The only glaring example of it breaking down was with a poorly tutored group of zebras in the Alamo Bowl.

I think the coaches challenge, on top of what is already in place would help things. Like not having to call a timeout to give the Sun Belt Conference replay official time to find the rewind button. Having the replay official decide is the way that I think the NFL should go, and not rely solely on whether the coach has any challenges or timeouts left, like the Saints game this year, where they got royally screwed. Adding a challenge or two to college football, that coincides with the rules that the Big Ten already has in place, would help the process IMO.

 

[sandgk]

I think the coaches challenge, on top of what is already in place would help things. Like not having to call a timeout to give the Sun Belt Conference replay official time to find the rewind button. Having the replay official decide is the way that I think the NFL should go, and not rely solely on whether the coach has any challenges or timeouts left, like the Saints game this year, where they got royally screwed. Adding a challenge or two to college football, that coincides with the rules that the Big Ten already has in place, would help the process IMO.

Thing is though, that justification can be read both ways. The Sun Belt was one of the few that did not have a working, season-long understanding of when and how to use replay. That more than anything else IMO made for the replay screw-ups resulting in Carr temper tantrums and the loss of scUM timeouts. Put an officiating crew experienced in use of replay on the field and in the booth for the Alamo Bowl and I believe none of the idiocy we saw would have happened.

Without the Alamo Bowl replay fiascos would there be a groundswell of approval to add a coaches challenge? I have strong doubts on that score.