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NCAA Coaches: Bribing Players

Being buried in the avalanche of news is this:

A player Steve Fisher recruited and coached, who also was one of his star players, got paid extra benefits.

Fisher retired last year, and SDSU has already decided to hold the player out of action pending investigation.

Hmmmm.....wasn’t he the coach when the Scum players were being paid?

Are you suggesting there was something untoward about Fisher turning a moribund San Diego State program into a perennial tourney team?
 
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I'm all for NFL/NBA funded developmental leagues for those who don't want to go to college. Give a kid a choice of paths. Take the traditional college scholarship route for three years or go play for 50K a year for the Reno Gamblers or Tulsa Tornadoes.
I think the only people who wouldn't be fine with that are the people who only watch college football, but the NFL has no incentive to do this and probably never will. Owners would never put up the start-up cash.

A lot of the current basketball drama could be solved by the NBA expanding the G-League and getting rid of the age rule.
 
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I think the only people who wouldn't be fine with that are the people who only watch college football, but the NFL has no incentive to do this and probably never will. Owners would never put up the start-up cash.

A lot of the current basketball drama could be solved by the NBA expanding the G-League and getting rid of the age rule.

I only watch college football, and I know that it would certainly dilute the product. That being said, I think it's the best thing for the current problems we have right now. You're right, though, that the NFL owners would never do it because they're essentially getting their minor league for free from the colleges. I think it would take a real sea change on the college football landscape to force them into it.
 
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I don't like how a lot of the talking heads have turned this into a "see this is why we should pay players argument".

First of all even if we handed all the players checks for 100k, schools would still be trying to outbid each other in secret.

Second, any of these kids can go get paid in Europe at any time. If Amedeo Della Valle can do it, so can most kids who play in the power conferences. In fact I think pretty much every OSU player including guys like Trey McDonald have gotten international contracts after OSU.

Third, how are we going to do this? Give every D1 basketball player 10k? So the kids at Duke get paid the same as the kids at Youngstown State? That's also unfair.

I understand football a little more since there are no minor leagues and a lot of the college players can suffer career ending injuries. But the argument for college basketball is kind of stupid and it's starting to eat away at the excitement around March Maddness which is usually the best college sporting event. It's just tiresome.

I would rather see the NCAA cap the amount college coaches could get paid
 
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With regards to basketball, I think this should be the death knell of the one-and-done era. Let kids enter the draft or sign with the D-league out of high school. Now, if you choose that route and don't make an NBA roster, you can't come crawling back to a college. You stick with your decision and go to the D-league. If you take a college scholarship, you're obligated to stay for 2 or 3 years. It'll dilute the college product certainly, but it will also bring back a lot of what makes college sports special in the first place.
 
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With regards to basketball, I think this should be the death knell of the one-and-done era. Let kids enter the draft or sign with the D-league out of high school. Now, if you choose that route and don't make an NBA roster, you can't come crawling back to a college. You stick with your decision and go to the D-league. If you take a college scholarship, you're obligated to stay for 2 or 3 years. It'll dilute the college product certainly, but it will also bring back a lot of what makes college sports special in the first place.
100% this.
 
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The NCAA is really poorly-suited to handle 1 & done because a lot of those players have a large monetary value they could be paid for their performance, and they are not going to allow the players to benefit from that value according to their rules. The NCAA can't do much other than reinstate freshman ineligibility to combat the problem of being a semi-pro league for those short timers, and that would punish a majority of players unnecessarily so it is not a good solution to the problem. The NBA has the age limit though, and I don't think they care about NCAA violations, so I don't see any change there happening.
 
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With regards to basketball, I think this should be the death knell of the one-and-done era. Let kids enter the draft or sign with the D-league out of high school. Now, if you choose that route and don't make an NBA roster, you can't come crawling back to a college. You stick with your decision and go to the D-league. If you take a college scholarship, you're obligated to stay for 2 or 3 years. It'll dilute the college product certainly, but it will also bring back a lot of what makes college sports special in the first place.
Unfortunately, any decisions regarding high school students not going to college has to be made by the NBA and the players Association.. They have always been against letting high school players go directly into the NBA draft.
I also think that a basketball player should just be like a baseball recruit. If he attends college, he must stay 3 years before being eligible for the draft.
I also did not know that just because colleges get over $10,000 from the federal government that the FBI can get involved in this type of activity @ORD_Buckeye I defer to you regarding the $10,000 figure.
 
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Unfortunately, any decisions regarding high school students not going to college has to be made by the NBA and the players Association.. They have always been against letting high school players go directly into the NBA draft.
I also think that a basketball player should just be like a baseball recruit. If he attends college, he must stay 3 years before being eligible for the draft.
I also did not know that just because colleges get over $10,000 from the federal government that the FBI can get involved in this type of activity @ORD_Buckeye I defer to you regarding the $10,000 figure.

I don't know what kind of monetary threshold exists, but I think that if they take federal research dollars or federal student aid, then even the private universities aren't shielded from this.
 
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What’d I say about the NCAA rolling over on this...?



They, like all businesses, are revenue driven. Losing top 10 teams to sanctions is bad for business. Plain and simple.

Also, watch the NCAA roll over when half their top 10 teams are set to be sanctioned.

Wonder if they don’t think “uhh, maybe we should just pay these kids” instead of losing Duke, UK, KU etc. to March TV revenue.
 
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What’d I say about the NCAA rolling over on this...?



They, like all businesses, are revenue driven. Losing top 10 teams to sanctions is bad for business. Plain and simple.

If the NCAA is going to roll over this, I have to ask why the hell I'm risking the FBI breathing down my neck by paying players under the table. If I'm Duke, I draw up legal contracts over the table right now for each of the players they have committed in the 2018 class, and dare the NCAA to do something about it. It's sure as hell better than risking a felony.
 
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What’d I say about the NCAA rolling over on this...?



They, like all businesses, are revenue driven. Losing top 10 teams to sanctions is bad for business. Plain and simple.


Absolutely. Cost-benefit analysis causing them to change their tune. I’m interested in seeing new ways people will come up with to cheat the system.

Also, Mark Emmert apparently has better job security than Roger Goodell.
 
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And seriously, fuck Dookie V. He's no hero in all of this by calling for Miller's head. Miller is just not part of his little circle jerk club. Shit comes out about Pitino and Duke, and Vitale was on the air and the interweb tubes saying, "let's wait and see; nothing has been proven here." Shit comes out about somebody not so close to him, and he wants to be the voice of zero-tolerance and integrity.
 
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