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Gatorubet;2054838; said:
I'd rather we get something for him now while we can. And I think that his salary demands will reduce the number of potential takers down to fewer teams than you'd think.
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Thing is he only wants to go to the Knicks, noone else in their right mind would give up anything for him because he wont sign an extension and will just end up with the Knicks when he's a free agent.
 
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Gatorubet;2054838; said:
I'd rather we get something for him now while we can. And I think that his salary demands will reduce the number of potential takers down to fewer teams than you'd think.
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and concurrently his options as an actual FA will be even less as teams simply won't have the available cap space to sign him outright, which is something that apparently alludes this dullard.
 
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Rookie age limit will not change for the 2012 draft. They could change it after that but I don't really see what leverage the league could hold over the players to get it to happen.

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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7332374/nba-labor-players-owners-vote-ratify-new-labor-agreement

But with the revenue split and system issues taking so much time, there was little opportunity to change the non-economic issues. The draft age limit will remain 19 years at least through the 2012 draft -- the league would have liked to go to 20, the players would like to abolish it entirely
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Miami Heat Owner Says Team Will Likely Lose Money This Year

Miami Heat owner Micky Arison is thrilled the team won the NBA title, but he says he?s hardly ringing up the cash register.
Arison told CNBC that the final numbers aren?t in yet, but his guess is that the team lost money again.
?This is a hobby of passion, it?s not a business,? said Arison, the CEO of Carnival Cruise Lineswho took control of the team in 1995. ?Every year in the building we?ve lost money aside from last year, under the old Collective Bargaining Agreement, because of LeBron.?:biggrin:
The Heat have been playing in American Airlines Arena for 12 seasons. They also haven?t ever paid rent thanks to loopholes in the agreement with Miami-Dade County including a clause that allows the team to pay itself back for its contributions to the arena?s cost before sharing the wealth.
So how does Arison explain how the team might have lost money after selling out its second straight season and 13 home playoff games?
?With the new Collective Bargaining Agreement, it works against us because of the dollars we had under contract already and the revenue sharing,? Arison said.
The Heat paid its players approximately $65 million for the 66-game season this year. A $1 for $1 luxury tax above the $58 million salary cap cost them about $7 million more. Then there?s revenue sharing and the Heat qualify as a team in the top third of revenue that has to share its revenue with the lower money-making teams.
Revenue sharing will eventually be three times as onerous as it once was, though the full sharing of revenue does hit until the 2013-14 season. It?s one of the main reasons why Arison was one of five owners who voted against the new Collective Bargaining Agreement, according to a report by ESPN?s Brian Windhorst.

Entire article: http://www.cnbc.com/id/48047319?__source=yahoo|headline|quote|text|&par=yahoo
 
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NBA owners may approve jersey sponsor logos this week

After a board of governors meeting in July, NBA officials said that they were discussing the possibility of adding corporate sponsor logos to jerseys. It could be voted on when owners meet this week, and those logos are likely to be on uniforms beginning with the 2013-14 season. "My sense is that every team is in favor of doing this in some form," Adam Silver, an N.B.A. deputy commissioner, said in July, adding it could be worth $100 million to the league. A recent study by Joyce Julius & Associates, which measures the value of sponsorship exposure, showed placing logos on jerseys could generate as much as $160 million in exposure value for those companies. The N.B.A. would be the first of the four major sports leagues in North America to put sponsors' logos on uniforms. Those logos, which would be two and a half inches square on the shoulders of jerseys, would give sponsors a running, passing, shooting and dunking billboard.

Entire article: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/21/s...t-into-sponsor-influence.html?ref=sports&_r=1

Think of the possibilities.....

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The USA is about the only place in the world where corporate sponsor logos aren't on jerseys of pro teams, in all sports. MLS has gone that route here, but no one else.

I'm sure some won't like it, but I don't think it's a big deal either way.

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Kevin McHale thinks NBA should raise age limit

One of new commissioner Adam Silver’s goals is get the NBA’s age limit raised to 20. He works for the owners and that is something they wanted out of the new collective bargaining agreement but put the issue aside in favor of getting a last minute deal done.

Silver has a new ally on this front — Hall of Famer Kevin McHale.

The legendary Celtics player and current coach of the Houston Rockets told Sam Amick of the USA Today he wants to see the minimum age limit in the NBA raised, that he can’t stand the one-and-done rule.

“I’m totally against (one and done),” McHale said. “I understand (the argument) that it’s America and everybody has a right to work. I understand that. But the guys aren’t ready. (When) you’re 16 years old or 15 years old, they don’t put you into doggone smelting or anything. Man, the NBA is a man’s league, and I think a lot of these young guys come in early and their careers would prosper if they stayed (in college).

“I’d like to see us do the three years out of high school or 21 (years old), like football. I just think it would help the colleges. I think it would help the kids. And I know they don’t think so, because they want to say, ‘Hey, I’ve got to get in the market. I’ve got to make all my money and all that stuff.’ But you don’t make money if you have a three-year career, if you come in at 18, 19, and you’re not ready.”

What McHale wants as a coach, what the owners want, is someone else to develop the best players and not on their dime. You know colleges would love to keep the stars around longer because they are businesses as well and it would help their marketing. For the NBA somebody else pays and does the work of developing the skills, they get a more polished player and one who already likely has built up more name recognition and marketing brand (again done not on the team’s dime).

What’s more, the coaches likely have to do less babysitting. Some players who came straight out of high school to the NBA didn’t have basic life skills — their parents took them to all their games/practices on time, fed them, washed their clothes. Those are the kind of things a lot of college students had to learn to do for themselves for the first time (get to class, budget their time to study, get clean clothes, etc.) and it forced myself and a lot of us to grow up. NBA teams don’t want to baby players through these basic life lessons, in theory players would already come out of college able to get to practices on time and generally be more professional.

Entire article: http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/01/kevin-mchale-thinks-nba-should-raise-age-limit/
 
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Mark Cuban weighs in:

Cuban: D-League better for prospects

Mavericks owner Mark Cuban believes it's in the best interests of elite prospects to play in the NBA Development League instead of spending one season in college.

"I think what will end up happening -- and this is my opinion, not that of the league -- is if the colleges don't change from the one-and-done, we'll go after the one," Cuban said. "The NCAA rules are so hypocritical, there's absolutely no reason for a kid to go [to college], because he's not going to class [and] he's actually not even able to take advantage of all the fun because the first semester he starts playing basketball. So if the goal is just to graduate to the NBA or be an NBA player, go to the D-League."
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Cuban suggests guaranteeing college tuition for such players, whether or not they pan out as NBA prospects, as an incentive.

"We can get rid of all the hypocrisy and improve the education," Cuban said. "If the whole plan is just to go to college for one year maybe or just the first semester, that's not a student-athlete. That's ridiculous.

"You don't have to pretend. We don't have to pretend. A major college has to pretend that they're treating them like a student-athlete, and it's a big lie and we all know it's a big lie. At least at most schools, not all. ... But we can put more of an emphasis on their education. We can plan it out, have tutors. We can do all kinds of things that the NCAA doesn't allow schools to do that would really put the individual first."
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Cuban's preference is that the NBA minimum age limit moves to 21 and three years out of high school. However, he can envision lowering the age limit for players who go to the D-League.

"We'd have to think it through," Cuban said. "I'm not trying to jump to conclusions and say I've analyzed this whole thing out. I haven't. But what I'm saying the interest is you're to maximize your ability for your chosen profession but you'd also have to make a commitment of some sort one way or the other, either to life skills training and/or academic training."

One conclusion that Cuban has reached: Playing in the NCAA is not the ideal way to prepare for an NBA career. He hopes the D-League emerges as a clearly superior option.

"Then you wouldn't be under the stupidity of the NCAA," Cuban said. "There's no reason for the NCAA to exist. None."

Entire article: http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/10538276/mark-cuban-says-nba-d-league-better-option-ncaa
 
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Actually like Cuban's idea. If you don't want to go to college then you can enter the D-League straight out. If you don't pan out or just want to go to school then you can apply for some kind of NBA grant for your schooling. Now that Stern is gone maybe the NBA can start righting the ship.
 
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lord vegas said:
Actually like Cuban's idea. If you don't want to go to college then you can enter the D-League straight out. If you don't pan out or just want to go to school then you can apply for some kind of NBA grant for your schooling. Now that Stern is gone maybe the NBA can start righting the ship.
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Would Cuban's rule allow them to play NCAA B-ball?
 
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