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jimotis4heisman;743001; said:
i honestly believe that the fights play a role in the game...

the diff between hockey and any other fight in a sport (excluding boxing) is their is a strict regulation on it. they have roles that if violated result in suspension, ejectiong, penalties etc. on top of that you have an unwrtten code...

But you see punches and cheapshots taken in football all the time...

Look at Albert Haynesworth...

Then look at all the bench clearing brawls in baseball...

Then basketball gets the bad rap...

I just don't really understand it...Of course you have your bad guys, Sheed, Artest, etc. but you have them in all sports...
 
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buckeyeboy;743014; said:
Let's not lose focus here, guys. Just b/c other sports have prima donnas too doesn't make Thomas's ridiculous comments more acceptable.

Very true. But it's more of a reflection on the diminished importance of the dunk contest as a whole.

The problem is that this thread was started by referring to those comments as an example of why the NBA isn't more popular.
 
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StadiumDorm;743018; said:
Very true. But it's more of a reflection on the diminished importance of the dunk contest as a whole.

The problem is that this thread was started by referring to those comments as an example of why the NBA isn't more popular.

WRONG, I stated that this is why....I.....have a hard time with committing more time to being an NBA fan. I did not generalize or speak for anyone else.
 
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Big Papa;743024; said:
WRONG, I stated that this is why....I.....have a hard time with committing more time to being an NBA fan. I did not generalize or speak for anyone else.

Well, then I hope your have a hard time watching sports. Otherwise, you're going to have to point out to me more motivation for not watching the NBA other than the fact that some players are assholes.

Newsflash:

NFL - some players are assholes

MLB - some players are assholes

NHL - some players are assholes
 
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basketball players are the most visible. they walk around in shorts and tshirts covered in tats that offend some portion of the population. they whine and complain, which is visible becuase of the proximity of the fans and cameras to the action, and also is not covered by a mask, shield, helmet, glove or other object.

baseball gets away with a lot b/c it seems as american as apple pie. anyone who has been in an mlb club house its just about as hispanic as a taco in reality...

football, they have done a great job of covering the downfall of the game. strict rules on the uniforms and the no fun league have preserved some of the old school mentality. also you have many of the superstars who market themselves as normal guys. when i think nfl i think farve, palmer, lt (was essentially flawless untill the pats game) and many others. sure they have the ocho cincos but you dont see the nfl guys marketing him, he markets himself to a level which he essentially makes an ass of himself and it cant be seen as much more than a joke


soccer, does anyone actually watch this stuff? i couldnt identify any of the mls all stars outside of mcbride. and if you gave me 3 people who closely resembled him id probably miss guess.

golf, probably the biggest group of stuck up fuckers. arrogance is sickening of these guys. sure some of them are real good people. but no sport has more fakes than golf.

hockey, in canada a canadian nhl player can poop gold, unless hes not playing for a candian team. then you have how the canadian hate the euro players. some of these guys are punk asses, but you see most of these guys as really down to earth. take a guy like fedorov, anyone who has meet him once, or more than once know what kind of person he is. its part of the culture of hockey. in the us its an upper/uppermiddleclass sport, in canada and lots of europe its a middle class sport.



long story short. every sport has great guys and asses. some do a better job of marketing and patroling their image.


each mans perception is each mans reality.
 
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StadiumDorm;743027; said:
Well, then I hope your have a hard time watching sports. Otherwise, you're going to have to point out to me more motivation for not watching the NBA other than the fact that some players are assholes.

Newsflash:

NFL - some players are assholes

MLB - some players are assholes

NHL - some players are assholes

I am struggling to understand why I need to substantiate my personal opinions to you. :huh:
 
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jimotis4heisman;743028; said:
basketball players are the most visible. they walk around in shorts and tshirts covered in tats that offend some portion of the population. they whine and complain, which is visible becuase of the proximity of the fans and cameras to the action, and also is not covered by a mask, shield, helmet, glove or other object.

Agreed. This is a part of the problem. The tatoos and cornrows are another part, and white surbaban culture doesn't get it (nor do I for that matter). There are numerous factors (race included), and I'd hate to point to anyone specifically as the root problem.

baseball gets away with a lot b/c it seems as american as apple pie. anyone who has been in an mlb club house its just about as hispanic as a taco in reality...

Not going to touch the last comment. But the first comment is right on point.

football, they have done a great job of covering the downfall of the game. strict rules on the uniforms and the no fun league have preserved some of the old school mentality. also you have many of the superstars who market themselves as normal guys. when i think nfl i think farve, palmer, lt (was essentially flawless untill the pats game) and many others. sure they have the ocho cincos but you dont see the nfl guys marketing him, he markets himself to a level which he essentially makes an ass of himself and it cant be seen as much more than a joke

There are a lot more players in football. So each team (even the Bengals) has a stand up guy that the fans respect, which allows them to believe in the character of the league.

That, and the fact that football is America's sport.


soccer, does anyone actually watch this stuff? i couldnt identify any of the mls all stars outside of mcbride. and if you gave me 3 people who closely resembled him id probably miss guess.

I don't watch American soccer. It's like watching Double-A baseball. But I do enjoy the English Premier League.

golf, probably the biggest group of stuck up fuckers. arrogance is sickening of these guys. sure some of them are real good people. but no sport has more fakes than golf.

NASCAR has more fakes. Just listen to a post-race interview of the winner once.

hockey, in canada a canadian nhl player can poop gold, unless hes not playing for a candian team. then you have how the canadian hate the euro players. some of these guys are punk asses, but you see most of these guys as really down to earth. take a guy like fedorov, anyone who has meet him once, or more than once know what kind of person he is. its part of the culture of hockey. in the us its an upper/uppermiddleclass sport, in canada and lots of europe its a middle class sport.

Hockey gets a pass on the fighting because it is a part of the sport. I have no problem with that.

BUT, I can promise you that a gambling scandal would have been a much bigger deal if it involved NBA people. I can promise you that if an NBA player was charged with the attempted murder of his agent, it would have been a much bigger deal. I can promise you that if an NBA player took a stick and smashed it upside the head of an opposing player, it would have been a much bigger deal.
 
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