Multiple shootings at Va Tech

[Jeffcat]

Yes scooter, I'm all for anarchy.

Answer my question, how does this compare to 9/11? Is there a country behind him? Was his goal to make americans across the country cower in fear?

Or did he just snap and shoot up his school, like Columbine?

just to make a correction...you should say "group" instead of "country" but your point is taken.

 

[scooter1369]

Yes scooter, I'm all for anarchy and bloodshed.

Answer my question, how does this compare to 9/11? Is there a country behind him? Was his goal to make americans across the country cower in fear?
Or did he just snap and shoot up his school, like Columbine?

The only connection I see is that both groups aren't white.

It doesn't anymore. It compared when the perception was that he was here solely for school.

 

[jwinslow]

It doesn't anymore. It compared when the perception was that he was here solely for school.

Why? Was there some evidence that suggested he came here on a mission? How did these two events compare (before the residence clarification), scooter?

1) Foreign college student shoots up a single school, inspired by girl problems
2) Terrorists coordinate assault on multiple american landmarks & cities, inspired by nationalism/terrorism

 

[Jeffcat]

Yes. I'm speaking of 9/11. They came over here as students, they learned to fly planes here and then used that knowledge to kill Americans. It was their plan all along.

Its not what happened yesterday, but it could tomorrow.

well if it was premeditated that they were going to do that before they even entered america then they never entered america with the intent of being "students" to begin with. all they did was use it as a cover up(as one of many they could of used). lets suppose cho was an international student and came over here. who are you to say that he premeditated the act in south korea and went to school for 4 years and then decided to kill americans out of the blue. like any american or international student for that matter he had problems, hit a breaking point, and snapped over social and/or girl problems and killed people. he didn't kill "americans", he killed students and professors.

 

[scooter1369]

Why? Was there some evidence that suggested he came here on a mission?

How do these two events compare, scooter?

Foreign college student shoots up a single school searching for some girl

Terrorists coordinate assault on multiple american landmarks & cities

I'm not suggesting HE did. I'm suggesting that any one of our current foreign students COULD.

And we have no way to know who, when or how.

 

[scooter1369]

well if it was premeditated that they were going to do that before they even entered america then they never entered america with the intent of being "students" to begin with. all they did was use it as a cover up(as one of many they could of used).

EXACTLY MY POINT. THANK YOU

 

[Jeffcat]

I'm not suggesting HE did. I'm suggesting that any one of our current foreign students COULD.

And we have no way to know who, when or how.

any of one of our current students could too so whats the point of singling out nationalities?

 

[Jeffcat]

EXACTLY MY POINT. THANK YOU

well if that is your point then it has nothing to do with international students or foreign students.

 

[scooter1369]

any of one of our current students could too so whats the point of singling out nationalities?

Reduce the risk, maybe? If only one in 2,000,000 students was to shoot up a school, then bringing in 2,000,000 foreign students increases your gunmen by one.

 

[jwinslow]

I'm not suggesting HE did. I'm suggesting that any one of our current foreign students COULD.

And we have no way to know who, when or how.

Well anyone could do anything, but that's not very useful in learning from this situation.

Was there anything besides skin color & nationality that makes you think of or compare this event to 9/11?

He snapped over relational issues. He didn't form a plan to make america pay.
One could argue that the columbine kids compare better to 9/11 than this individual.

 

[scooter1369]

Well anyone could do anything, but that's not very useful in learning from this situation.

Was there anything besides skin color & nationality that makes you think of or compare this event to 9/11?

He snapped over relational issues, not someone out to make america pay.
One could argue that the columbine kids compare better to 9/11 than this individual.

I'm done. Simply arguing numbers and you make it race. Later

 

[tibor75]

from wikipedia:

A Korean club on campus reported that he refused to join or talk with them at all.[9]

So? Maybe he felt he had better things to do then waste time on pointless organizations. I never talked to or joined the Indian American group at OSU mainly because I couldn't stand the people in them.

 

[Jeffcat]

Reduce the risk, maybe? If only one in 2,000,000 students was to shoot up a school, then bringing in 2,000,000 foreign students increases your gunmen by one.

thats the whole point that jwinslow and i are making. if you are saying 1/2,000,000 american students will do it and 1/2,000,000 foreign students will do it then they will be equally likely to cause a shooting therefore making no difference between the 2. its like saying 2+2=4 in terms that a red 2 and blue 2 will equal 4 just like a red 2 and another red 2 will equal 4.

 

[martinss01]

However, I don't see what they can effectively do to "prevent something like this from ever happening again."

im thinking if parents tried raising their children for a change instead of letting a video game, or rock band, or the mtv network, or the drug dealer down the street, etc... the odds of this happening would decrease significantly.

his writing style caused him to have to visit the school's counseling service.

behold my shock and or utter amazement.

 

[OCBucksFan]

im thinking if parents tried raising their children for a change instead of letting a video game, or rock band, or the mtv network, or the drug dealer down the street, etc... the odds of this happening would decrease significantly.

Agreed, I don't really understand how people are raising their kids now. My parents raised me with the idea of not watching too much tv or playing video games and to go outside and interract with people. Now, I guess people just let entertainment babysit.