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Multiple shootings at Va Tech

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The Va. Tech President was quoted in an AP report (revised minutes ago) that the shooter was a VT student. (He couches his words, saying the 2nd incident was the work of the unnamed 19-year old Asian student, does not directly state that the 1st dorm shooting was his handiwork, but believes no other person was involved).

BLACKSBURG, Va. - Virginia Tech's president said Tuesday that a university student was the gunman in at least the second of the two campus attacks that claimed 33 lives to become the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history.
Though he did not explicitly say the student was also the gunman in the first shooting, he said he did not believe there was another shooter. The gunman struck down two people at a dormitory Monday before killing 30 more people at a campus building and finally killing himself with a shot to his head.
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On the issued warning his words ..
Steger also defended the delay in warning students about the gunman. Some students said their first warning came more than two hours after the first shooting, in an e-mail at 9:26 a.m. By then the second shooting had begun.
Steger said the university was trying to notify students who were already on-campus, not those who were commuting in.
"We warned the students that we thought were immediately impacted," he told CNN. "We felt that confining them to the classroom was how to keep them safest."
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jlb1705;813731; said:
Is the function of assuming isolation really a function of campus culture? I think that it's more likely a function of culture in general, in that I have a difficult time imagining any institution reacting any differently in the early stages of their investigation and reaction.
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I would contend that an urban campus, say like Cleveland State, would have reacted a lot differently to the situation due to the assumptions present in that culture as to what a worse case scenario could reasonably escalate to.
 
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more stories are coming out about what happened inside... including how the professors helped the students escape only to be gunned down by this maniac. They said one of the proffessors was a leading researcher and had devoted his life to unlocking the mysteries of Cerebral Palsy (which my son has)... it's heartbreaking that these people who have done so much good are now gone.

One kid that was on GMA said that he was the last one to jump out of one of the second story window because the two kids behind him were shot and killed.
 
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at the moment im more pissed at the media more than anything. they run with skewed stories and fabricate info just to be different and get coverage. they also get crimologist that tell at least me common sense. now i know the majority of the public are complete idiots and probably are crying in horror as how this whole situation is possible but i find it illogical to think so because its way too easy for it to happen. hell i have class at 10:30 with a class of over 250 people and i could go there TODAY and do the same. its unpreventable when the act has been decided in our society of freedoms. last night i checked out facebook and saw all the groups which is how i first obtained names and gave them out and now the media is running with that and using that as part of their story. they want to throw so much pressure on the investigation and what ifs. for the situation as a whole there really is no physical what ifs because it CAN and WILL happen. you can only mentally give the guy some reconciliation to help prevent it and the guy didn't have it and assumptions MAY HAVE led to the later worse scenario but granted you think about it and irrational people are all over the news and saying "oh my god what a travesty why did these horrible officials not shut the whole school down and have the police go after the guy". give me a break. they are thinking with emotion which is blinding their logic. the cops arrived to an already terrible crime and evaluated it with detail given its horrible nature. if somebody walked into smith hall and shot 2 people do you think that the police would arrive and instantly shut down a campus of 50,000 students right off the bat?....hell no. the campus police would arrive and be astonished and put extra effort into evaluation of the crime given its severity and by the time they figure it out more and decide to lock down a campus of 26,000 students. that is a mass evacuation of impossible proportions. there would be panic, those of which could not be reached, handicapped, confused, those who would stay behind, etc. i am an osu student and this situation is easily situational right here at osu just like VT. knowing the time this happened, its just completely unreasonable to think that they could "shut down" the school as the media claims and frankly it pisses me off. people need to think with their head and not their emotions because it skews reality. dont get the misconception that i think the VT officials did everything right because i dont believe they did because of their assumptions but i just wish everybody could deduct by reason and think rationally of the reality of the situation.
 
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WoodyWorshiper;813701; said:
Well put. Does anyone out there really think that this exact same thing can't happen tomorrow? If one crazy-ass mutherfucker out there decides that it happens again tomorrow, then it happens again tomorrow.

Thoughts and prayers to the entire Hokie Nation.
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My question would then be, "Why are there so many more psychos in America than the rest of the free world combined?"
 
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jlb1705;813720; said:
If the rumor/assumption that he was searching for his girlfriend/ex-girlfriend is true, I hope he found her. I know it sounds crass, but I can't imagine what kind of life she would have to try to lead if she had somehow made it through the day alive - especially when other people found out who she was. I wouldn't be able to live with myself.
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wait a second. i really hope that i'm misinterpreting this.
 
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OSU_Buckguy;813788; said:
jeff, when the q-tip meets resistance, stop pushing.
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I don't think Jeff is saying that the media is stealing his idea, just that they are doing the same thing, which, although I think it is valid for an individual, you would think that the media would not resort to having to air things like that. I agree with Jeff that the media is completely out of line in this case. Then, when has the media not taken advantage of an opportunity to be sanctimonious...
 
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gregorylee;813793; said:
I don't think Jeff is saying that the media is stealing his idea, just that they are doing the same thing, which, although I think it is valid for an individual, you would think that the media would not resort to having to air things like that. I agree with Jeff that the media is completely out of line in this case. Then, when has the media not taken advantage of an opportunity to be sanctimonious...
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precisely.......and i know i may be grasping at straws but now they have tiki barber launching his announcing career on the today show but interviewing people but at least he is relevant as a nearby citizen and image but i find it odd that all of sudden is all over the tv reporting.
 
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now they are taking the facebook story and running with it. if they wanted info they could just ask me and i could give them the name of the group that is listing all the deceased and their whereabouts but instead they barge on and are quoting people without their authority that are grieving by verbatim on national television. they are forming a group where they can be with their peers and express theirselves freely and now the media is taking that freedom away from them. i have facebook and i know how the groups work and whatnot and as a part of the VT group now and speaking with them i would really rather not have the media quoting people from verbatim and probably making misinterpretations of that.
 
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If anyone was curious...

Iran Offers Condolences to Victims in Virginia Tech Shooting

Tuesday , April 17, 2007

TEHRAN, Iran —

Iran on Tuesday condemned a gunman's rampage the previous day at Virginia Tech university which left 33 people dead and was the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history.

"While condemning this (attack), (Iran) expresses condolences with the nation and the families of those killed," Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini said in a statement, a copy of which was made available to The Associated Press.
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