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MLB General Discussion (Official Thread)

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AL East

1. Boston Red Sox
2. New York Yankees (Wild Card)
3. Baltimore Orioles
4. Toronto Blue Jays
5. Tampa Bay Rays

AL Central

1. Chicago White Sox
2. Minnesota Twins
3. Kansas City Royals
4. Cleveland Indians
5. Detroit Tigers

AL West

1. Anaheim Angels
2. Oakland A's
3. Seattle Mariners
4. Texas Rangers


ALDS: Boston over Chicago; New York over Anaheim

ALCS: Boston over New York


NL East

1. Philadelphia Phillies
2. Florida Marlins
3. Atlanta Braves
4. New York Mets
5. Montreal Expos

NL Central

1. Houston Astros
2. Chicago Cubs (Wild Card)
3. St. Louis Cardinals
4. Cincinnati Reds
5. Pittsburgh Pirates
6. Milwaukee Brewers

NL West

1. Arizona Diamondbacks
2. San Francisco Giants
3. Los Angeles Dodgers
4. San Diego Padres
5. Colorado Rockies

NLDS: Houston over Arizona; Chicago over Philadelphia

NLCS: Chicago over Houston


WS: Boston over Chicago (just for you jlb)


Reverse the curse 2004!!!!!

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Because the Royals are nothing special either. The Royals played over their heads last year. I'm not impressed by signing Gonzalez either. I see the Royals winning about 80 games...same as the White Sox, and close to the Twins as well. Worst division in baseball. Toronto would win it if they were in it and Baltimore would make a race of it. Seattle too. Only Texas, Tampa, and Detroit in the AL would have no chance in the sorry AL Central.(The Indians have CLOSE to no chance, and if they trade Milton as it appears almost certain they will, then they probably have no chance as well).
 
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I agree with the weakest in baseball points of view.

I still think KC has a great chance to play their way into the playoff, and I think it will happen

Minnesota has lost too much finally,

Chicago is already having spats with their manager

Cleveland is just too young

The Tigers, are the Tigers

Kansas City has good enough pitching for this division, and IMHO has the best offense in the division by a lot.
 
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I have to say that the Indians may finish as high as second place - sure they are young when it comes to hitting, but their pitching is going to be pretty solid, and they made some late spring training acquisitions. I agree about the Royals playing over their heads last year. I just don't think the White Sox have enough to be competitive.
 
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Just a little FYI for the Red Sox fans here...

March 24, 2004

ThinkFilm in 'Red Sox' dugout

New York-based indie banner ThinkFilm has acquired "The Boston Red Sox Movie," a feature documentary that chronicles the relationship the team has with its fans, set against the backdrop of the 2003 season. The film will have its theatrical premiere May 7 in Boston and will roll out nationally throughout the spring and summer. "Sox" was produced by Bombo Sports & Entertainment, with cooperation from the Boston Red Sox. Bombo partner Paul Doyle Jr. directed the film, which was produced by Bob Potter. ThinkFilm president and CEO Jeff Sackman negotiated the deal with Potter. (Ian Mohr)
 
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The White Sox have the best off. in the Central division, and when Minn. lost Milton, that also gave the Sox the best pitching. They will will that division.

I've been a Yankee fan all my life. I remember in either 64' or 65' when Bob Gibson beat them in the World Series. Even tho they lost, I knew then that I would be a fan for life. It's not who the Yankees and Red Sox put on the field this year. It's that NY knows they will win, and Boston knows they will lose. And as far as pitching goes, Boston's top 3 pitchers had a very poor 2nd half last year.
 
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Sloppy-I am a Yankee fan as well but have never been to a game in NY. Is the stadium in as bad an area as I keep hearing?
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NDC: The area around the stadium is a pretty bad neighborhood. Its not as bad as the stories I hear about old Tiger Stadium, but its not good, nonetheless. However, on gamedays there're a ton of cops all over the place, and I've been to hundreds of games in my lifetime and nothing's ever happened to me.
 
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Good to know, we may be going to a Yankee game this year, if for no other reason than we're in New York, it's summer, and I have never been to it.

Yes I can tell you first had that the Old Tiger stadium was straight up scary. I went to a game in it's last season, because I wanted to see a game before they tore it down. After being there, I can say good ridince.
 
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Killer: "Good to know, we may be going to a Yankee game this year, if for no other reason than we're in New York, it's summer, and I have never been to it."

I will tell you this: tickets for the Yanks are hard to come by right now. If you're in New York, you might have to buy them from a scalper. Once the A-Rod deal went down, projected tickets sales for the year went from 3 million and change to 3.8/4 million, which is huge. Every Red Sox game is sold out, and I'd imagine that its a very hard ticket to get once the weather gets warm.
 
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Speaking of bad neighborhoods surrounding stadiums, be careful if you ever go to Comiskey Park for a night game....well any game for that matter. The south side of Chicago is not a place you want to mess around in if you're caucasian.

I've never feared for my life like I did after walking to the train stop after a White Sox game a few years back. We actually had a few african-americans that were nice enough to stop and escort us crackers to the train stop.
 
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sears3820 said:
Speaking of bad neighborhoods surrounding stadiums, be careful if you ever go to Comiskey Park for a night game....well any game for that matter. The south side of Chicago is not a place you want to mess around in if you're caucasian.

I've never feared for my life like I did after walking to the train stop after a White Sox game a few years back. We actually had a few african-americans that were nice enough to stop an escort us crackers to the train stop.
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A friend and I go down to Wrigley a few times a year.... he knows Bob Wickman so I told him we should go to Comiskey and meet up with him and take in a game when the Tribe travels to Chicago. He told me he would not go to that park for anything... and he's a deputy sherrif!!! I told him we should take his squad but that would make us an even bigger target!! Just driving by that neighborhood on I75 makes me lock my doors. :lol:
 
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Ok, here's the first installment of my rankings of the greatest players to ever step on a baseball diamond. Because I want to research this a bit, and due to the fact that I want to write a lot on each player, I'm doing this in increments. Today will be # 1 and # 2, and the next few will come this week going down to # 25. I invite your comments.

1. Unquestionably George Herman "Babe" Ruth: Even Di can't say this has anything to do with Yankee bias. Ruth is to baseball what Marconi is to the radio and what Edison is to the lightbulb all rolled into one. He's the only player great enough to curse a franchise for 85 years. Here's my case:

Stats:
Ruth is 10th all time in lifetime batting average (.342), second all time in lifetime OBP (.474), 1st in Slugging (.690), third all time in Runs (2,174), 37th in hits (2,873), 5th in Total Bases (5,793), 2nd in Home Runs (714), 2nd in RBI (2,213), 3rd in Walks (2,062), and oh yeah: he's also 15th all time in lifetime ERA (2.28), and 10th all time Win PCT (.671).

He is the most feared offensive machine in the history of baseball, and was on course to be possibly the greatest lefthander of all time before he gave up pitching. He lead the league in OBP 10 times. He lead the league in Slugging PCT 13 out of 14 seasons from 1918 to 1931. He's the only man not on steroids to slug .800, and Ruth did it twice. He lead the AL in runs eight times, and had the unbelivable total of 177 in 1921. He lead the league in Total Bases six times, and had another unfathomable number in 1921 (457). He has six RBI Titles, lead the league in walks 11 times, and won his only Batting Title in 1924 (.378).

Am I missing something here? Oh yeah, Ruth also hit home runs. A lot of 'em. He won 12 Home Run Titles, and the ones in the begining of his career were by a very, very wide margin. In 1920, Ruth hit 54 Home Runs. The next highest total? George Sisler, with 19.

Bottom Line:
Any way you want to slice it, The "Bambino" is Number One. Not only is he the greatest baseball player of all time, but he's the greatest athlete in the history of team sports. Next!

2. Tyrus Raymond "Ty" Cobb: Because of the Home Run's infulence on modern baseball, Cobb gets lost in the shuffle, but if you look at his numbers, the Georgia Peach is the second greatest player of all time.

Stats:
Cobb won the AL Triple Crown in 1909. He hit .400 THREE times, and one of those times was at the ripe ol' age of 35. Batting Titles? How bout eleven of 'em. He had 200+ hits in a season NINE times. He's 1st all-time in lifetime Average (.367, a record that will stand for the rest of time), 2nd in Runs (2,246), 2nd in hits (4,189), 4th in Total Bases (5,854), 4th in Doubles (724), 2nd in Triples (295), 6th in RBI (1,937), and 4th in Stolen Bases (892).

For the Philadelphia A's, at the ages of 40 and 41, Cobb hit .357 and .323, respectively. The man could hit in his sleep.

Bottom Line:
I've heard a lot of people mentioned for this spot (Willie Mays and Ted Williams are the most prominently mentioned), but it still belongs to Cobb. He hit .370 or better TWELVE times. He has as many batting titles as the two greatest pure hitters of our era (Wade Boggs and Tony Gwynn) COMBINED! And lets face it: no one, and I mean no one is hitting .400 three times. Not a chance. When it comes down to it, Cobb gets the edge here because as great as the accomplishments of Williams, Mays, Aaron, or whoever else you want to argue for this spot are, they still aren't as imposing as Cobb's resume. Everyone else's totals may be topped one day, but no one will ever touch .367 or (again) touch 4,189.
 
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