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Italy had plenty of chances to win both of those games but in the end could not hold on due to shaky defense. PR couldnt hit for the most part but still found a way to win when their pitching kept them in the game. The next couple of nights should be some entertaining baseball.
 
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My final .02 on yet another WBC national embarrassment (just using WAR as a point of reference not claiming it's the end all be all) .........


2012 top 15 OF by fangraphs WAR:

  1. Trout
  2. Braun
  3. McCutchen
  4. Heyward
  5. Bourn
  6. Prado
  7. Zorbist
  8. A Gordon
  9. A Jackson
  10. T Hunter
  11. Holliday
  12. Harper
  13. Reddick
  14. Pagan
  15. Adam Jones

Prado is Venezuelan, Pagan is from Puerto Rico. Everyone else is U.S. born and eligible to play. Only Braun, Zorbist and Adam Jones did so.


2012 top 15 SP by fWAR (u.s born in bold)

  1. Verlander
  2. Felix Hernandez
  3. Kershaw
  4. Gio Gonzalez
  5. David Price
  6. Yu Darvish
  7. Greinke
  8. Sale
  9. Cliff Lee
  10. Wade Miley
  11. Cueto
  12. Sabathia
  13. Dickey
  14. Scherzer
  15. Cole Hammels
Gio Gonzalez and Dickey played.

Some other observations:

  • #1 Catcher B Posey -anyone see him? Instead of a Posey/Mauer C/DH combination (8 and 5 WAR respectively) we get Lucroy and Aerncibia (3.9 & 1.3)
  • #1 1B P Fielder 4.9 WAR-anyone seen him? It's hard to miss his fat ass. Instead we went into battle with #24 ranked 1B Eric fucking Hosmer (-1.1 WAR for those who pay attention to such things). Little bit of fucking difference there. I know Texiera got hurt but Hosmer is the best we could do?


Coaching
Torre and Bowa, 1975 called and it wants you to come on home. Playing small ball with an (arguably) all star lineup is the definition of stupidity. Your zeal to give away outs makes Dusty baker jealous.

I'll give somewhat of a pass on the roster selection because I don't know how many teams blocked you from taking better players. That said, if PT is an issue to keep guys fresh, why did we have 3 fucking catchers? Also, Shane Victorino is the best we could do for an OF spot? Really? I see any number of U.S. born names on the WAR list before I get down to #33. Is there a need to represent Hawaii?

Bottom line to me is that until we get as serious about winning this thing as Japan, DR and PR then we simply aren't going to. Half assed effort produces half assed results. The Derek Holland, Hosmer, Victorino approach just isn't good enough imo.
 
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