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Not a ton of baseball chatter on the site right now but I thought I'd get a thread going to discuss MLB not directly related to the Reds, Indians, Orioles etc....


First off this is one where letters don't do it full justice so I'm going to have to spell out,

What The Fuck?

The Rockies signed Chris Volstad yesterday, but that?s not stopping them from going after more veteran pitching. The club is ?aggressively pursuing? free agent right-handers Carl Pavano and Derek Lowe, Troy Renck of the Denver Post reports. The Rockies would like to complete another deal this week.
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Owner: "Hey we gave up more runs than anyone in baseball last year, what the hell are we going to do about it?"

GM (with a straight face): "Sign Volstad, Pavano and Lowe of course. Duh."

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You just can't make this shit up. What on earth could they possibly be thinking other than the obvious "someone has to do it"?
 
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Nutriaitch;2295081; said:
all 3 guys are ground ball pitchers.

Lowe being a sinkerballer is the most extreme of the 3.

in a park like Coors, keeping the ball down is huge.
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Flyballs traveling aren't the only problem in Coors. Breaking balls don't break and sinkers don't sink like they do in other parks.

I get the groundball thing but they are going to get pounded. I'm quite sure they, and the Rockies front office, know this and are just going from the premise that you have to try and put a reasonable facsimile of a MLB team on the field to sell tickets.

It reminds me a lot of the lost decade in Cincy where the off season plan was to hope some has been/never was pitcher could significantly out perform his numbers in a hitters park.

I give them credit for at least thinking of groundball tendencies and bringing in flyball guys like Eric Milton (shudder).
 
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Jaxbuck;2295103; said:
Flyballs traveling aren't the only problem in Coors. Breaking balls don't break and sinkers don't sink like they do in other parks.

I get the groundball thing but they are going to get pounded. I'm quite sure they, and the Rockies front office, know this and are just going from the premise that you have to try and put a reasonable facsimile of a MLB team on the field to sell tickets.

It reminds me a lot of the lost decade in Cincy where the off season plan was to hope some has been/never was pitcher could significantly out perform his numbers in a hitters park.

I give them credit for at least thinking of groundball tendencies and bringing in flyball guys like Eric Milton (shudder).
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could also be thinking "no matter who we throw out there, they gonna get rocked. might as well do it on the cheap."
 
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Nutriaitch;2295708; said:
could also be thinking "no matter who we throw out there, they gonna get rocked. might as well do it on the cheap."
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Pretty much.

Vets looking for one last pay day from some team that will have them. They go out and swallow some pride every 5th day to stay in the show.

We've seen it before but it still strikes my irony funny bone when I see a shitty pitching team try to "fix" it with names like Lowe, Volstad and Pavano or better yet to try and sell those moves as an attempt at improvement to their fans with a straight face.

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yeah, I wouldn't call any of those guys a "fix" for anything.

I'd take Lowe as a potential 5th starter at best.
prolly more useful as a middle reliever at this point in his career though.

Volstad is still young, but even his AAA numbers were nothing to write home about.

Pavano...how the hell does he keep getting jobs?
He's like AJ Burnett without the flashes of above average.
 
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Speaking of more FO WTF action...Phillies sign Delmon Young.

Dude should have to wear a football helmet when he plays LF and he is by all accounts a locker room cancer. Not to mention his particular offensive skill set (sucking) is redundant in the Philly outfield.

On the positive side, he's a warm body and cost $750K
 
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Jaxbuck;2295719; said:
Speaking of more FO WTF action...Phillies sign Delmon Young.

Dude should have to wear a football helmet when he plays LF and he is by all accounts a locker room cancer. Not to mention his particular offensive skill set (sucking) is redundant in the Philly outfield.

On the positive side, he's a warm body and cost $750K
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this combined with them signing Michael Young has me thinking maybe the Phillies misunderstood all the talk about them needing to get "Young".

someone should tell them we were talking about their ages.
entire infield is north of 30 and/or haven't been healthy in a while.
 
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Nutriaitch;2295731; said:
this combined with them signing Michael Young has me thinking maybe the Phillies misunderstood all the talk about them needing to get "Young".

someone should tell them we were talking about their ages.
entire infield is north of 30 and/or haven't been healthy in a while.
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That team is getting old fast and have a few albatross salaries they're going to have to confront in the coming years.

Plus the outfield is a big question mark. Revere is ok in center but Domonic Brown is probably not the answer in RF and Mayberry had kind of a disappointing 2012. Their glory years are behind them in the NL East IMO.
 
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Bucky32;2295741; said:
That team is getting old fast and have a few albatross salaries they're going to have to confront in the coming years.

Plus the outfield is a big question mark. Revere is ok in center but Domonic Brown is probably not the answer in RF and Mayberry had kind of a disappointing 2012. Their glory years are behind them in the NL East IMO.
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They are still dangerous IF healthy but I don't think the odds of staying that way are very good moving forward. Regardless, even at full strength on the IF and SP, that OF is weaker than circus lemonade. "Player X doesn't completely suck" is about the best thing you can say in regards to any individual component of that whole.

Also, their farm system is pretty weak so no immediate help on the horizon. IMO they will soon hit that magic spot at the end of a dominant run where they sell off the vets to restock the farm.

Nats are clearly the best team in the NL east right now and positioned to stay that way but if Philly can catch a St Louis like run of health luck and the OF plays like a collective Skip Schumaker then they are as dangerous as anyone.

Throw in the Braves and the NL East could be very interesting because they are all going to get to feast on Miami.
 
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While in college, I fell out of love with baseball and more deeply in love with football. I moved to Chicago in June and this year I bought season tickets to Cubs games. No matter how bad they suck, going to baseball games can be really fun, so I'm hoping I can get back into baseball this year.
 
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Yahoo: Ryan Braun's name listed in Biogenesis clinic records

Milwaukee Brewers star Ryan Braun's name is in records of the Miami-area clinic alleged to have distributed performance-enhancing drugs to a rash of baseball players, and Major League Baseball will investigate the link to the former MVP who tested positive for illegal synthetic testosterone during the 2011 postseason.

Three of the Biogenesis clinic records obtained by Yahoo! Sports show Braun's name. Unlike the players named by the Miami New Times in its report that blew open the Biogenesis case, Braun's name is not listed next to any specific PEDs.

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I'm curious to see how the Blue Jays fare after their acquisitions. They'll either be serious contenders, or hosting a fire sale in July.
 
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Jake;2306454; said:
I'm curious to see how the Blue Jays fare after their acquisitions. They'll either be serious contenders, or hosting a fire sale in July.
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There are a lot of interesting names on that roster right now.

Hard to imagine they all bust, or that they all click.

I question the bullpen.
 
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