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Game Thread Minnesota @ Ohio State - 10/13/18, 12:00PM (FS1)

I watched Minny for most of two games. A different team showed up today. It is clear that they prepared for this game since last year and considered it their bowl game. Trick plays, the big fella, some interesting play calling. Ohio State injuries were a huge concern. Two players on concussion protocol especially hurt. That doesn't explain the bloody soft coverage on those slant routes, etc.

It was a good learning experience for some 2's, Bucks get the win, and I expect the team to be a bit healthier and to play better on the line next week.

They better find a running game by next week because they are going to need to keep this defense off the field as much as possible until after the bye week, at least.
 
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I didn't watch the game, but I just looked at the score on my phone. Problem wasn't Haskins (400 yes, 3td, 0 int). Why the lackluster offense?

They just have to come up with a different way to insert running plays organically. I'd like to see them run more uptempo after first downs and try to attack the D consistently in that way, and build play actions off of it. Right now it just seems like the coaches are thinking, "Well, we haven't run in a few plays..." and forcing it into a drive. You obviously need a running game and can't give up on it, but I'd like to see a bit more reason behind it rather than feeling like it's being done just for the sake of balance.

I guess the best way to say it is that the running game has no rhythm.

As @Jaxbuck said, the offensive line got worked, especially Prince. The defensive line also had its worst game this year. I share @1926Buckeyes confusion as to why we could run uptempo so well the first three games but now cannot. The offense hums when you are keeping the opponent on their back heels and frustrating their ability to substitute. It showed today that the Buckeyes looked slow and plodding at times.

There were lots of folks out today with injuries, but coaching and soft coverage also opened opportunities to run the same plays at the OSU defense with impunity.

There is a lot of work to do this week and the following bye week before we hit the final stretch.
 
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Post-Game Notes

1. Dwayne Haskins was excellent again this week, completing 33 of 44 passes for 412 yards, 3 TDs, and no INTs. His 33 completions ties his own school record (set last week vs Indiana; also equalled by J.T. Barrett vs Penn State in 2017); and his 412 passing yards is the third-best in school history.

2. For the season, Haskins is now 175/242 (.723) for 2,331 yards, 28 touchdowns, and 4 interceptions. He is easily on pace to shatter Ohio State's single-season passing records for yards (3,330 by Joe Germaine in 1998); completions (240 by J.T. Barrett in 2017); completion percentage (.653 by Troy Smith in 2006); and touchdowns (35 by J.T. Barrett in 2017).

3. K.J. Hill continues to make himself some money, as he caught 9 passes for 187 yards (7th-best single-game total in Ohio State history) and a pair of touchdowns. For the season, Hill is second on the team in catches (40) and receiving yards (551), and third with 4 receiving touchdowns.

4. Parris Campbell had 8 receptions for 56 yards, and he continues to lead the team in receptions (43), receiving yards (557), and receiving touchdowns (7).

5. Once again, the running game underperformed as Mike Weber and J.K. Dobbins combined for 23 carries for 86 yards (3.74 ypc) and no scores. It seems that opposing defenses are Hell bent on stopping the Buckeyes' ground game and challenging Dwayne Haskins to beat them through the air. Advantage Haskins.

6. Prior to the season, some Buckeye fans speculated that Weber and Dobbins might each break the 1,000-yard mark this year. Through seven games, the pair have not even combined for 1,000 yards, as Dobbins has 497 yards (71.0 ypg) and Weber has 471 yards (67.3 ypg). Even more disappointing, the pair are averaging just 4.94 yards per carry, with Weber gaining 5.41 yards per carry and Dobbins gaining 4.56 yards per carry.

7. The offensive line looked bad. They looked bad in the running game. They looked bad in the passing game. They got beat individually. They got beat collectively. They committed penalties. And they got hurt, as left tackle Thayer Munford left the game early with an ankle injury.

8. The defense gave up big plays, as per usual. Although the defense gave up "only" two plays of 30+ yards (pass of 41 yards, run of 34 yards), they also gave up 14 plays of between 10 and 29 yards (9 passes, 4 runs, 1 penalty). Because of all the big plays, Minnesota was able to rack up 396 yards of total offense and averaged 7.1 yards per play. On the plus side of the ledger, the defense did force 3 turnovers (2 interceptions, fumble recovery), all in Ohio State territory.

9. Chase Young has been in cruise control since his breakout performance versus Penn State in Week 5. Against Minnesota, Young had just 3 tackles and a TFL, and in general did not have much of an impact on defense.

10. Blake Haubeil replaced Sean Nuernberger and promptly connected on all three of his field goal attempts, including one from 47 yards. Nuernberger is a fifth-year senior and an extra point machine, but Haubeil has a much bigger and more accurate leg and he has to be the place kicker going forward.

11. Drue Chrisman in a great punter. So what? I'd rather not punt, especially against the likes of Minnesota.

12. Ohio State had just 5 penalties for 36 yards. Entering the game, the Buckeyes had been averaging 8.5 penalties for over 80 yards per game.

13. If the Playoff Committee is going to rely on the "eye test", then Ohio State still has a lot to prove.
 
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Post-Game Notes

1. Dwayne Haskins was excellent again this week, completing 33 of 44 passes for 412 yards, 3 TDs, and no INTs. His 33 completions ties his own school record (set last week vs Indiana; also equalled by J.T. Barrett vs Penn State in 2017); and his 412 passing yards is the third-best in school history.

2. For the season, Haskins is now 175/242 (.723) for 2,331 yards, 28 touchdowns, and 4 interceptions. He is easily on pace to shatter Ohio State's single-season passing records for yards (3,330 by Joe Germaine in 1998); completions (240 by J.T. Barrett in 2017); completion percentage (.653 by Troy Smith in 2006); and touchdowns (35 by J.T. Barrett in 2017).

3. K.J. Hill continues to make himself some money, as he caught 9 passes for 187 yards (7th-best single-game total in Ohio State history) and a pair of touchdowns. For the season, Hill is second on the team in catches (40) and receiving yards (551), and third with 4 receiving touchdowns.

4. Parris Campbell had 8 receptions for 56 yards, and he continues to lead the team in receptions (43), receiving yards (557), and receiving touchdowns (7).

5. Once again, the running game underperformed as Mike Weber and J.K. Dobbins combined for 23 carries for 86 yards (3.74 ypc) and no scores. It seems that opposing defenses are Hell bent on stopping the Buckeyes' ground game and challenging Dwayne Haskins to beat them through the air. Advantage Haskins.

6. Prior to the season, some Buckeye fans speculated that Weber and Dobbins might each break the 1,000-yard mark this year. Through seven games, the pair have not even combined for 1,000 yards, as Dobbins has 497 yards (71.0 ypg) and Weber has 471 yards (67.3 ypg). Even more disappointing, the pair are averaging just 4.94 yards per carry, with Weber gaining 5.41 yards per carry and Dobbins gaining 4.56 yards per carry.

7. The offensive line look bad. They looked bad in the running game. They looked bad in the passing game. They got beat individually. They got beat collectively. They committed penalties. And they got hurt, as left tackle Thayer Munford left the game early with an ankle injury.

8. The defense gave up big plays, as per usual. Although the defense gave up "only" two plays of 30+ yards (pass of 41 yards, run of 34 yards), they also gave up 14 plays of between 10 and 29 yards (9 passes, 4 runs, 1 penalty). Because of all the big plays, Minnesota was able to rack up 396 yards of total offense and averaged 7.1 yards per play. On the plus side of the ledger, the defense did force 3 turnovers (2 interceptions, fumble recovery), all in Ohio State territory.

9. Chase Young has been in cruise control since his breakout performance versus Penn State in Week 5. Against Minnesota, Young had just 3 tackles and a TFL, and in general did not have much of an impact on defense.

10. Blake Haubeil replaced Sean Nuernberger and promptly connected on all three of his field goal attempts, including one from 47 yards. Nuernberger is a fifth-year senior and an extra point machine, but Haubeil has a much bigger and more accurate leg and he has to be the place kicker going forward.

11. Drue Chrisman in a great punter. So what? I'd rather not punt, especially against the likes of Minnesota.

12. Ohio State had just 5 penalties for 36 yards. Entering the game, the Buckeyes had been averaging 8.5 penalties for over 80 yards per game.

13. If the Playoff Committee is going to rely on the "eye test", then Ohio State still has a lot to prove.
Do we have to worry about Young's effort? Is he going to be one of those guys at the draft they say has tons of talent but takes plays off all the time?
 
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As @Jaxbuck said, the offensive line got worked, especially Prince. The defensive line also had its worst game this year. I share @1926Buckeyes confusion as to why we could run uptempo so well the first three games but now cannot. The offense hums when you are keeping the opponent on their back heels and frustrating their ability to substitute. It showed today that the Buckeyes looked slow and plodding at times.

There were lots of folks out today with injuries, but coaching and soft coverage also opened opportunities to run the same plays at the OSU defense with impunity.

There is a lot of work to do this week and the following bye week before we hit the final stretch.


I didn't say the OL got worked

I just got back in and didn't see any of the game live. Saw the score and knew it was better I wasn't watching or posting here.
 
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I see no reason Tate Martell shouldn’t get snaps on 3rd and 4th and 1’s to keep defenses honest on the QB keep.

It wouldn’t be that different than when Tebow was the short yardage specialist. I think it’s such a green light for defenses to crash, it’d be much more efficient to have Tate handle the short yardage situations.
You pull arguably the best player on the team out of the game subbing Tate for Haskins. Now, if we put both in together or both Weber and JK then ok...
 
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You pull arguably the best player on the team out of the game subbing Tate for Haskins. Now, if we put both in together or both Weber and JK then ok...
Doesn’t matter how good Dwayne is if you can’t move the ball in the red zone. They need Tate to mix things up, and I’ll be disappointed in the offensive minds on the staff if it doesn’t happen soon.
 
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Doesn’t matter how good Dwayne is if you can’t move the ball in the red zone. They need Tate to mix things up, and I’ll be disappointed in the offensive minds on the staff if it doesn’t happen soon.
NO. WHY? You put Tate in the redzone and teams will adjust to what he is doing. No different. Why take your best player out of the game who is proven to produce in tight situations. Get the play calling right that suits this teams game. No reason to take him off the field unless injured or up by 30
 
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Doesn’t matter how good Dwayne is if you can’t move the ball in the red zone. They need Tate to mix things up, and I’ll be disappointed in the offensive minds on the staff if it doesn’t happen soon.
It’s a matter of play calling. Wildcats and jet sweeps just don’t cut it on the red zone . We haven’t seen the fade to Victor or just a quick slant yet that I can recall...
 
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