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Minnesota Golden Gophers (official thread)

Yes. The Minnesota Viking arrived.
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If any school gets some black swan event and hires a program changer like Alvarez, then sure. It comes down to the definition of success. Wisconsin isn't competing for NC's, they are in the quadrennially good cohort that is content with challenging for B1G titles every few years as the fortunes of 2 & 3 star player development allow.

Add IU, Purdue, Illinois and every other bottom feeding P5 school to your list.

Mason was the closest thing they had to that guy and they fired him. Hell, Lou Holtz only did so much at Minnesota.

He got them put on probation. Then again, he got everyone put on probation.
 
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Coaching rumors: Minnesota reportedly could name Western Michigan’s P.J. Fleck head coach on Friday

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According to Schmit’s online report, Minnesota would have to give Fleck a 6-year contract at around $21 million if it wanted to get the Broncos coach.

Entire article: https://www.landof10.com/minnesota/coaching-rumors-minnesota-p-j-fleck-les-miles-coach

Fleck could be going from "Row The Boat" to "Ski-U-Mah" (whatever that means)......:rofl:
 
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I don't think it's arguable that Wisconsin has had more success than Minnesota, however you choose to define it. Minnesota would take the last 25 years of Wisconsin in a heartbeat.

Of course you're right about really any other bottom feeder, but that's all contingent on them getting their [Mark May] together in football, which they seem to be incapable (Minnesota/Illinois) or uninterested (Indiana/Purdue) in doing (which is why they're the bottom feeders to begin with).

Mason was the closest, but he wasn't really that close. Holtz maybe could have been, but he bolted after 2 years for ND. But, back to the original premise and to your first point: Wisconsin isn't having outrageous success year after year. They're not playing for national titles. They're competing for Big Ten titles and the occasional BCS/NY6 bowl. That's what Minnesota should aspire to and I don't think it's completely out of reach. They just have to quit with the fuckery.

On the topic, I'm not exceptionally well versed in Minnesota history, is there a reason the program careened off a cliff in the 60's?

Minnesota (much like Michigan) had a pretty illustrious history early on in college football history. I would say they really dropped off the cliff in the mid 40's. They were very good in the 30's and early 40s. The 60s was more a blip on the radar. As college football gained more and more traction in the south and was less dominated by the northeast and midwest, their flow of talent never recovered. Michigan and Notre Dame realized early on that they would need to bring in talent from all points on the map. Minnesota (for whatever reason) never was able to make that transition. If you look at the map, they are really hampered on the talent front by their location. Unless they are able to magically construct a national recruiting program, they will never recapture their glory years.


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Coaching rumors: Minnesota reportedly could name Western Michigan’s P.J. Fleck head coach on Friday

Fleck could be going from "Row The Boat" to "Ski-U-Mah" (whatever that means)......:rofl:

Ski Utah something, something?

Surprised. I thought fleck was holding out for something bigger than a share of the Big Ten title which he already has albeit at MAC wage levels.
 
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