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Steve19 said:
Minnesota will always be Corky Taylor to me. They can never rise from the slime in my eyes without apologizing for what they did.
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If you hate Corky you are a hard, hard man Steve.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
It's not Rutgers but the only good coach they had since the early 80's was Mason and they decided he couldn't "get them to the next level" and fired him.

1 guy in 40 years wins and they get delusions of grandeur and fire him
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I watched the bowl loss to TTU that got Mason fired. Minny got a huge lead and then went three-man rush exclusively until it was gone without adjusting at all as TTU kept scoring. Mason deserved what he got IMO. It was one of the most ridiculous losses that I've ever seen.
 
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Jagdaddy said:
I watched the bowl loss to TTU that got Mason fired. Minny got a huge lead and then went three-man rush exclusively until it was gone without adjusting at all as TTU kept scoring. Mason deserved what he got IMO. It was one of the most ridiculous losses that I've ever seen.
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It's Minnesota. They were in a Bowl game. That's pretty much the high water mark for their program.

You don't start spouting the "next level" nonsense and fire the guy who got you there pretty consistently.

There is no next level for Minnesota. A December Bowl game is it.
 
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Jagdaddy said:
Maybe. Wisconsin says hi though.
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Abenaki said:
My thoughts as well. Wisconsin isn't doing anything Minnesota couldn't do if they ever got their [Mark May] together.
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If any school gets some black swan event and hires a program changer like Alvarez, then sure. It comes down to the definition of success. Wisconsin isn't competing for NC's, they are in the quadrennially good cohort that is content with challenging for B1G titles every few years as the fortunes of 2 & 3 star player development allow.

Add IU, Purdue, Illinois and every other bottom feeding P5 school to your list.

Mason was the closest thing they had to that guy and they fired him. Hell, Lou Holtz only did so much at Minnesota.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
If any school gets some black swan event and hires a program changer like Alvarez, then sure. It comes down to the definition of success. Wisconsin isn't competing for NC's, they are in the quadrennially good cohort that is content with challenging for B1G titles every few years as the fortunes of 2 & 3 star player development allow.

Add IU, Purdue, Illinois and every other bottom feeding P5 school to your list.

Mason was the closest thing they had to that guy and they fired him. Hell, Lou Holtz only did so much at Minnesota.
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Spittle freezes. It was a bad hire.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
If any school gets some black swan event and hires a program changer like Alvarez, then sure. It comes down to the definition of success. Wisconsin isn't competing for NC's, they are in the quadrennially good cohort that is content with challenging for B1G titles every few years as the fortunes of 2 & 3 star player development allow.

Add IU, Purdue, Illinois and every other bottom feeding P5 school to your list.

Mason was the closest thing they had to that guy and they fired him. Hell, Lou Holtz only did so much at Minnesota.
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I don't think it's arguable that Wisconsin has had more success than Minnesota, however you choose to define it. Minnesota would take the last 25 years of Wisconsin in a heartbeat.

Of course you're right about really any other bottom feeder, but that's all contingent on them getting their shit together in football, which they seem to be incapable (Minnesota/Illinois) or uninterested (Indiana/Purdue) in doing (which is why they're the bottom feeders to begin with).

Mason was the closest, but he wasn't really that close. Holtz maybe could have been, but he bolted after 2 years for ND. But, back to the original premise and to your first point: Wisconsin isn't having outrageous success year after year. They're not playing for national titles. They're competing for Big Ten titles and the occasional BCS/NY6 bowl. That's what Minnesota should aspire to and I don't think it's completely out of reach. They just have to quit with the fuckery.

On the topic, I'm not exceptionally well versed in Minnesota history, is there a reason the program careened off a cliff in the 60's?
 
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Abenaki said:
I don't think it's arguable that Wisconsin has had more success than Minnesota, however you choose to define it. Minnesota would take the last 25 years of Wisconsin in a heartbeat.

Of course you're right about really any other bottom feeder, but that's all contingent on them getting their [Mark May] together in football, which they seem to be incapable (Minnesota/Illinois) or uninterested (Indiana/Purdue) in doing (which is why they're the bottom feeders to begin with).

Mason was the closest, but he wasn't really that close. Holtz maybe could have been, but he bolted after 2 years for ND. But, back to the original premise and to your first point: Wisconsin isn't having outrageous success year after year. They're not playing for national titles. They're competing for Big Ten titles and the occasional BCS/NY6 bowl. That's what Minnesota should aspire to and I don't think it's completely out of reach. They just have to quit with the fuckery.

On the topic, I'm not exceptionally well versed in Minnesota history, is there a reason the program careened off a cliff in the 60's?
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Yes. The Minnesota Viking arrived.
 
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